Anon uses Discord : greentext

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago

And I'm not looking forwards to the effort it is going to take to get my friends to migrate away from discord. It was hard enough to get them on discord in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I created a Discord account so I could try Midjourney and my account got blocked within a few hours. I use a VPN most of the time, can't remember if I was with Discord so might have had the same IP as another user. Didn't bother to set up another account.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

They block most VPNs outright.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago

All the more reason to not use Discord imo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Mullvad works.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anon doesn't know, Discord fails to include a libre software license text file. We do not control it, anti-libre software.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean??

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That is kinda bullshit if they didn't even see the content.

[+] [email protected] -38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Just because they didn't participate doesn't mean they didn't know it was there.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Discord specifically has a skip to most recent post button, that i use frequently on the busier ones, because I'm not scrolling through two miles of unrelated nonsense and sub-convos to get to what's currently relevant.

Am I guilty of thoughtcrime?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

I mean if they have channels called like "CP Central" and the users all talk about how great the CP is on CP Central all the time then it really doesn't matter how many messages you skip.

Also

I'm not scrolling through two miles of unrelated nonsense and sub-convos to get to what's currently relevant.

This bullshit is exactly why I don't use discord.

[+] [email protected] -28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)

My question is why do people feel the need to be in 40 servers? I couldn't name 10 I give a shit about.

As a user you're voluntarily joining a server, you should know what the content is and how well it's moderated. Ignorance isn't a defense here; a server doesn't get nuked for one bad actor posting illegal content once or twice.

Nine times out of ten these stories are from a user that joins servers made for NSFW content (usually for something like OF leaks). There's no content verification and lots of active channels.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that combo almost always ends poorly (see: reddit jailbait or old pornhub). If it feels risky just leave, there's no lack of places to find porn on the internet.

Edit: The downvotes and replies are hilarious. Have any of you actually been banned? Do you know anyone that has been banned? If these small servers for games or 10k member general servers were the issue, you'd hear about this way more.

Discord doesn't want to ban users, it's bad for business. They know what servers you're in and how you access them. If they think banning someone is worth it its to cover their ass on ACTUAL crime; nothing about this is thought crime.

Again, give me any counter example of masses of users being unjustly banned. You're tilting at windmills people...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

I'm in 60+ servers, but actively follow maybe 4-5. Others are for different games, twitch communities, lots of subreddit discords since I haven't used Reddit since the API bullshit... I should trim down the list but I like popping in to them occasionally, don't feel like I should get banned due to activity in a server I rarely check

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

1-3 for friend groups, 3-20 for various games because devs decided to stop using traditional forums so if you want to talk shit to a game devs face regarding changes that fix the exploit you've been using to have fun you have to pretend to be a discord kitten for months and gain their confidence so you can appropriately deal enough psychic damage to repay what they took from you, 5-10 for foss software collaboration, 5-10 for obscure porn game contribution so it stops taking ten fucking months between updates.

And I think I'm pretty asocial. Normies must have thousands of servers joined.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

I'm in exactly 1 server, that my friend uses to organize game night at his place with many other people. If I could get him to switch platforms I would delete my account.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

Limit is 200 with nitro but there is a reason why unofficial clients have workarounds for the limit

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I'm in 23 different discord servers. Tech, hacking, DIY, cars, music, etc.

[+] [email protected] -20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bro got down voted for telling the unwashed masses to practice some vigilance and personal responsibility. Fuck...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

*for telling people they are responsible for what others do in a chatroom they may look at once and then ignore.

I am in discords I never engage with, but literally only have as a place I can search for answers, like a niche alternative to stack overflow. It is absurd for me to be held to the standard of policing everything that happens on those servers just in case some of it might be bad. Discords can also have permissions limited viewing. Are we supposed to know what happens in the channels we can't see?

More importantly, despite how much work it is to do so, punishments have to be applied on an individual level. Punishing people who are in a class is too vague.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 23 hours ago

how is it my problem if an emote server i joined years ago and never even opened since turns bad?

how is it my problem that a hidden channel i never saw broke TOS?

people get banned for both

get off people's asses for not being discord batmans hunting down TOS violations across every channel, every day in every server they join. we're not paid discord admins and we're not doing their goddamn work for them, besides even those reporting can get banned.

content like this should be removed yes but proximity to it shouldn't get you banned. Do you think it would be a good idea to arrest an entire block of flats because one resident turned out to be a criminal? Do you think it would be bright to expect every single resident to have figured out a crime was about to happen and leave for the duration of it?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know that some servers can have tens of thousands of people right?

[+] [email protected] -35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What's your point? That personal responsibly stops existing in a large group of people?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean, Lemmy used to have a big issue with CSAM being spammed by malicious users. Many people believed that it was pro-Reddit trolls, because it started happening right around the same time as the giant API debacle. It was a huge liability for the instance owners, because their server would automatically cache the content and they could be held liable for the CSAM being present on their server. It took a few months of dev time to add moderation tools, blacklisting, setting up automods, etc before it finally calmed down to the point that instance owners felt comfortable again.

By your logic, every single user in instances that got spammed should be banned. Because even if they didn’t see it, or interact with it in any way, they’re still personally responsible for it. After all, personal responsibility doesn’t stop existing in a large group of people.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 19 hours ago

Lemmy is celebrating cracking 50,000 users. Discord has 200 million MAU. They take a broader approach to punishment because it's the only feasible way to avoid legal problems.

IIRC some Lemmy instances were defederated at that time for poor moderation and nobody complained. Its a reasonable approach to avoid liability.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

My point is that it's very naïve to assume that everyone in a given server knows what one person potentially posted once, especially the large servers.

Of course it's possible they knew, but assuming by default that they had to have known is stupid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

So, what you're saying is, if someone on your Lemmy instance breaks the rules of another instance, your entire instance should be defederated, right?

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[–] TwilightKiddy 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Presumption of innocence is a thing, you know?

In 2020 some small servers (50-200 people per server) got cover banned with all their users, mostly for political talk, as far as I'm aware.

I, personally, usually join such small servers while looking for lobby members in older games, I have a couple of them muted except for channels dedicated specifically to game lobbies. If someone starts an "illegal" talk in any other channel on one of these, why should I be held liable? Or am I suddenly obligated to hunt for pipe bomb recipes in any server I join?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I don't really know how to use Discord except by muting servers immediately after joining and probably never looking at them again

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Just because they're part of the server doesn't mean they knew it was there.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

Anon's big mistake was not being the President of the Gulf of America.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago

Anon forgot to put their interpersonal relationships in a RAID array

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Its greentext. Its not real/true.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

And yet it is.

Can't say if this anon specifically had this happen, but there's plenty of proof of it happening.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fake and gay as they say

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

I watch enough No Text To Speech to belive this is true. I even think he had a video about this

Anon can at least hope to appeal the suspension as its not a complete ban but support might take a while

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I'm worried that for reporting all those servers and people, I will get a permaban as a thank you.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

gosh, that makes me feel really nervous

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Same! Perhaps I should prune my Discord servers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

This doesn't sound "user friendly" at all to me

[+] [email protected] -22 points 17 hours ago (10 children)

I have no qualms about your getting banned for this.

You are who you associate with. For example: trump associates with Epstein. Should he not be banned from discord?

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[+] [email protected] -10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I still don’t understand the point of discord. I just deleted the app cause it was sooooo boring. The only social media I have is a perma banned reddit account (a few), snapchat (which I never use anymore as I have grown out of it and it has turned to absolute shit) and the lemmsters. Feeling good

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