Europe, I hope y'all are doing the whole "speak quietly and carry a big stick."
Because if Putin steam rolls Ukraine, he's not stopping there, and now he has the US government under his control too.
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They have scheduled a committee meeting to decide where to plant the tree from which they might someday get big sticks.
If Europe really wanted to stop Russia, they would've sent armies into Ukraine.
"We don't want to escalate because it might start WW3!"
But Putin is going to attack you guys anyways when he's done with Ukraine.
"Yes, but this is the rhetoric dumbasses have been told to peddle so that's what we're doing!"
I still remember when people said Ukraine shouldn't mine its border because it would be seen as "escalation." Funny how the wrong-crowd always scatters like roaches after the damage is done.
Man, what a peace-loving guy! Damn Ukraine for not stopping the war! >:/
Ukraine shouldn't have started it by wanting to be independent of Russia.
Edit: do I really need to add /s?
Ukraine asked for it. By the way she dressed. If Ukraine didn't want to be invaded, she should have just kept an aspirin between her knees
Accept that there are those lurking here whos only purpose is to downvote good and accurate content. So for the real lemmy users, no you don't have to add it. For the ones who are only here to stir up trouble. Why bother.
Hm this is going to be a real speedbump on the way to Trump's Nobel
I heard that Duterte got his Nobel price for his hard work in the Filipines! C'mon putin, visit Cancun but why not have some touchdowns along the way. See if you can tell interpol from cute dancers or maybe food servants? The interpol has your price! Come get it!
He wants peace btw
He cherishes peace with all of his heart. He doesn't care how many men, women and children he kills to get it
There will be peace when there's nobody left to fight.
Technically correct dictator 🥲
Bullshit.
Nah you can totally trust people who use the terms "or die" in peace negotiations
So more weapons and aid to Ukraine it is then.
They can't win without additional troops.
I wish I could say I don't know why you people don't realize it, but I get it now.
The Russia cannot win without additional troops either. And they cannot get those.
Eventually the Russia's economy will collapse, and at that point it will lose the war and has to leave Ukraine.
Ukraine cannot win the war, but has enough support that it also will not lose it. The Russia cannot win the war, and doesn't have enough support to avoid eventually losing it.
Once the Russia has lost the war, it has to leave Ukraine, because then there's nothing it can do to stop Ukrainian forces from taking its territories back.
It is irrelevant that Ukraine cannot win the war, since the Russia is doomed to lose it.
The Russia cannot win without additional troops either. And they cannot get those.
That's... simply not true
I can tell you're a victim of the propaganda mill and get visibly uncomfortable whenever someone says something that goes against your indoctrination.
Actually, reading the rest of your post is kind of hilarious. The absolute delusions you people believe are truly a sight to behold.
Glad I paid attention in social studies. It's a shame you did not.
Okay, any idea of what the propaganda mill has told me, then?
The facts at hand tell that in the latter half of year 2024 Ukraine received zero military aid from USA. Because of that, the Russia was able to advance at a surpricingly fast pace. Because of this, they managed to conquer as much as 0.7 % of Ukraine's total territory during that year. Under one percent. When they were fast.
They almost never use tanks anymore, but ATV's, because they have only the tanks they are able to produce. Which is about 30 per month. Which is a lot, to be honest, but it's easy for Ukraine to destroy at least one Russian tank per day. And that makes 30 per month as well...
The Russia has had a stable recruitment ability of 25 000 to 35 000 soldiers per month, and are currently losing 1000 to 1400 per day. That makes about 40 000 soldiers lost per month. By far not all of those are deaths, but all of those are permanent losses through very serious wounds or death. When you recruit 35 000 soldiers and lose 40 000, you are not gaining any additional troops. You are keeping their numbers approximately stable, but keeping them approximately stable is what Ukraine is able to do as well. Neither side is able to get additional troops.
Please tell me. What is it that the propaganda mill has told me? I did not feel uncomfortable from what you said, because you said nothing with actual content. You said "simply not true", and left it to that.
Please tell me something that makes me feel uncomfortable.
Fucking war criminal.
So... Let me check I get this right on the timeline.
America Europe Ukraine meet, agree to a 30 day ceasefire. Agree this tests if Russia is serious about ending the war. Putin gobbs off, surrender or die.
Categorical that Russia is not serious about ending the war.
Next steps boys
Because they need Ukrainian resources or the Russian state goes bankrupt and that's the end of Russia.
The next step is to get Putin to a table and poison or radiate him and end it that way.
Trump gets angry how his perfect plan fails, calls for sanctions and increased weapon delivered to Ukraine of of spite.
Or he sulks in the corner focuses on his trade war and bans media outlets that point out how terrible is at negotiation.
- America Europe Ukraine meet, agree to a 30 day ceasefire. Agree this tests if Russia is serious about ending the war. Putin gobbs off, surrender or die.
And I say Putin must die or rot in prison.
Bro, you don't even have the strongest army inside of Russia.
In the words of The Dread Pirate Roberts: "Death First!"
That’s not a mutually exclusive or