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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago

    I had to spend an annoying amount of time finding all of the settings to make it so that my windows machine would never wake up on its own, spread out over an even longer period of time because some of them aren't easy to trigger on my own so it was a matter of trying something and then trying more things if I find it awake on its own again.

    Even disabling the wake on mouse movement was a pain because it doesn't properly label mice and keyboards and doesn't have a global setting. I wanted to keep wake on keyboard but not have it wake if my mouse moved a nm because a butterfly flapped its wings too vigorously as it flew by the closed window.

    After I installed Linux, I went to do the same thing there only to find it already had sensible defaults set.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y

    That's how easy updating is on (Debian flavors)Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

    On arch it is sudo pacman -Syu or yay

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

    On RHEL it's simply sudo dnf update -y

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

    "My" "p" "c"

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

    STOP TALKING ABOUR WINDOWS!! STOP TALKING ABOUT WINDOWS!!!!!! IM BORED

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

    oOooOooOo πŸͺŸ

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    Turn the fucking PSU off, dipshits. Perfectly safe to do while hibernated, and you're now in complete control of when it powers on.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

    Modern PCs don't truly hibernate, they sleep. If the tower loses power its considered a hard reset.

    If anything, Windows machines often have 'fast boot' enabled which saves certain things to state, so today's manual shutdown (without power loss) is closer to old school hibernation than today's 'sleep' is.

    You can shutdownyour PC each night, but depending on what you're working on it can disrupt workflow, so I understand why many people prefer to sleep instead.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    My PC does this really annoying thing, whenever I tell it to Install and Shut Down the bloody thing restarts every time

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    That's because the shutdown hardly exists anymore. When you choose shutdown now it just hibernates. Reboot is the only way to get the full refresh of a shutdown unless you're using CMD.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

    So I dualboot and each time i shuts down, i get boot menu. Are you telling me that is not shutdown in windows?

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

    Ugh, the updates.....my work PC is Win 11, I got an email from IT last night telling me I had to install the latest update I had been putting off. This morning after I clocked out I started the update. I have 500 down and it took almost 2 hours to download and 3 hours later the installation is only at 53%. I'm just going to go to bed and hope it's done by the time I have to clock in tonight.

    And my coworkers wonder why I prefer Linux.....

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

    I like and I do use Linux as my main OS. No dual boot BS, just pure Linux

    butttttttttttttt

    getting hibernate working perfectly in Linux on new hardware is PITA. I'm just happy with suspend working well, let alone hibernation.

    Modern standby is the absolute shit of an invention.

    This is the ONLY reason I wish I have a Mac. Forget all the memes and jokes about Apple, their laptops suspend very well. IIRC, they also have a hibernation timer built in, so if your laptop automatically hibernates after X hrs. But I dont want to be stuck in their ecosystem, so yeh...

    Linux devs are not that keen to make hibernate work well either. Remember systemd dev forcefully removed the "suspend then hibernate" feature? You can still find the thread on Github lol.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

    I heard mac won't shutdown at all but only does sleep and someone mentioned any keypress will wake it from sleep so that you can't clean keyboard..

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

    OpenSUSE hibernate works. Just have to add extention to show the hibernate button (in GNOME)

    [–] tyler 2 points 7 hours ago

    this meme is really true for windows, sometimes my pc wakes up the second I put it to sleep. seems to be some random app I have open allowing it to wake up again. infuriating. With intel macs, they wasted a lot of battery asleep, but my silicon mac can sleep for weeks without losing hardly any battery. linux I still can't get sound to work properly.

    [–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

    "My PC" was even replaced with "this PC" since Windows 11, which feels almost too symbolic...

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

    this meme is especially true for students and the likes πŸ˜‚ whenever you share a one-room flat with a laptop made by clueless techbros for clueless techbros, the increased fan whirring really shines.

    [–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    To be fair, Linux has not been especially awesome at suspended/hibernate/resume, historically.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

    Yea, I like to suspend my machine, but rather than hit suspend and walk away I have to wait to find out what has prevented suspend from suspending. That and it trying to goto sleep when I don't want it to. Drives me nuts

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    🀭and sometimes, if you wake your linux things go to shit and all you see is black screen and white mouse on it

    Sometimes super+ctrl+alt+F8 saves me and I can restart PC from TTY, and sometimes, there is only a flashing cursor. In second case, I have to take hard measures and forcefully manually restart it

    (Yes nvidia card with latest proprietary driver and kde on wayland) -> everything latest meaning from endeavour/arch/aur repos.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Not every Nvidia but always Nvidia.

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

    Another day of learning about Linux from the comments under a meme.

    [–] [email protected] 121 points 1 day ago (45 children)

    The main thing I'm learning from this thread is that a surprising number of people don't shut their machines down when they're done using them. Which is wild to me.

    [–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (10 children)

    A lot of modern windows laptop don't let you shut them down.

    They use something called Windows Hybrid Sleep and it should be illegal. Selecting shut down in windows will keep the machine in a state where it will turn on at random times to check for updates. Especially fun whrn in your backpack creating a furnace.

    Thankfully it can be disabled via AD policy.

    [–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Shouldn't have to use fucking group policy just to stop your machine updating at inopportune times. Fucking Windows.

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    It's always funny to me when people call Linux complicated and in the next sentence say shit like that

    As if doing registry edits and group policy stuff is acceptable for basic features and settings

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Nope. My Linux Mint randomly wakes up from sleep mode all the time. It's just a bug. Tried to fix it, never found solution. I guess I am fine with it. Well. Not really. Help me if you can!!11!!

    [–] muhyb 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Apparently you can see which devices can wake your PC with cat /proc/acpi/wakeup. S3 should be sleep and S4 hibernation. Though I have no idea which device is which.

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    [–] [email protected] 93 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (21 children)

    My Windows 10 computer eerily waking itself from sleep got me in the habit of shutting it down completely every night. I'd be lying in bed, turn over and open my eyes, and see the light of the screen reflecting off the wall. It was like something out of a shitty horror movie about computers taking over the world.

    To this fucking day, even in Windows 11, it takes "Update and Shut Down" as a mere fucking suggestion. About half the time, it'll restart after the update and just sit there chilling at the login screen. Not a single fuck given.

    Linux is a breath of fresh air by comparison. Though, if you choose to run Arch you need to stay on top of updates or else a day will come where you won't be able to update because you're now too far behind. It can be fixed manually, but it's still annoying and a little scary if you're not familiar with it.

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