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Ontario will impose a 25% surcharge on electricity exports to New York, Michigan, and Minnesota starting Monday in retaliation for Trump’s tariffs on Canadian goods.

Premier Doug Ford warned U.S. governors and vowed to maintain the surcharge until all tariffs are lifted.

Canada has already imposed $30 billion in retaliatory tariffs, with more planned.

Ford also threatened to cut power to the states by April and banned U.S. firms from bidding on Ontario contracts. A $100M SpaceX deal for rural internet was also scrapped in response.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm certain he's doing it for the wrong reasons, but it's nice to see the angry raging conservative attacking a genuine asshole for once.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly he's even doing it for the right reasons. His country has been economically attacked. Not to respond would just make it worse.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I suspect he's playing it up for the camera in order to differentiate himself from American conservatives now that they've begun turning on Canada. It's something I imagine we'll see out of Poilievre as well, because otherwise they'll quickly become unelectable.

Just remember that they were chums all up until this point, and that's still damning. Ford supported American conservatives all the way until the leopards turned to eat his face. Yeah, it's cool that he's going above and beyond to fight back now, but he still wants Ontario to act like Texas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure about Poilievre. Imo he'll take a more moderate stance against MAGA if any at all. He's changed his stance recently, similar to Ford, but it felt a bit later and a bit weaker.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah Ford is a raging asshole so he's loud and combative. PP genuinely just seems like a little bitch puppet so even if he turns on MAGA, I don't think it will be as loud as this.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

Not disagreeing at all. It's the standard right wing mode of operation, nothing matters until it affects them personally. It should be studied as a developmental disability.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (6 children)

No offense but Trump would welcome these on highly liberal Minnesota and New York and be impartial to Michigan. These are not affecting conservative states.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It will affect the customers, who are rural. The states are blue, because of their cities, but the cities aren’t reliant on Canadian electricity. The rural areas are, and they vote red.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you really think the Trump supporters will connect the dots?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

JD Vance showed how much he cares about rural communities in Hillbilly Eulogy. Rural Americans are just impressionable pawns to Trump and his ilk.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Makes you wonder if this is the first phase of what he meant about "blue states completely disappearing off the map" next year.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Glad Canada is sticking to I because they’re sending a message Trump that they’re not going to fuck around with him flipping the on/off switch on tariffs

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think the damage is done. I hope to never see American liquor in stores ever again.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I’m American I agree. Your country doesn’t deserve our businesses if we have a dictator running our country

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago

I'm ok with this and live in one of the affected states.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do what you have to do it's all good. I'm going to be part of the brain drain in this country. My wife and I are POC we are guaranteed first class tickets to death camps or be made slaves for existing. Our populations have been marginalized and kicked in the ribs for centuries. We have no reason to fight or to 'stay and fix the country' any more than the German Jews of last century did. I don't want to be made responsible for what racist whites have enabled to happen in this country.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've got quite the resume and I've been having trouble finding sponsors overseas. I would love to be a part of the brain drain.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I feel that it has never been easy to leave the US and just find a country that will work with you to get a sponsorship. I know they may view us unfavorably now but we were looking at Germany originally because of the Chancenkarte visa. We looked at Spain but would have to forego working for a few years before we would be eligible for citizenship. We decided to go back to my Wife's country of origin so we have fewer issues.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

I'm about to get my Mexican permanent residency 🥳

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Life Pro Tips:

To USA Residents: If electricity is too expensive, you could always save money by shoplifting 😉 (go for the big corporate chains)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like it, but I'm a little confused.

Why does an individual province determine trade policy? Is this normal for Canada?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The deal is between the provincial utility, which provides the electricity, and the state utility. In the USA, the federal government controls most resource rights. In Canada, it's the provinces. Comparatively, provinces are a lot more powerful than states are. As I understand it.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

~~I'm waiting for him to tear up the gd damn Starlink contract that he keeps threatening to do, but hasn't done.~~

He said he's ripped up the contact.

Drug Fraud isn't known for keeping his word.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Drug Fraud is hilarious 😂. I'm gonna use this later.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ontario has already ripped up a $100-million deal with Elon Musk's SpaceX to bring Starlink's high-speed internet to rural and northern communities and remote First Nations.

Article claims it's already happened!

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