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While French President Emmanuel Macron has talked of the need for “an incredible awakening” and German Chancellor-in-waiting Friedrich Merz described Europe as being “five minutes to midnight,” the worry from those close to the discussion is that events are happening more quickly than they can cope with.

“The nightmare scenario is that the U.S. announces a deal soon that accepts most of Russia’s demands and then tells Ukraine and Europe to take it or leave it,” said Malcolm Chalmers, deputy director general at the Royal United Services Institute in London.

And they’re not only scared of the United States. They’re also wary of some of their own. While Thursday’s hastily arranged summit, just days after less formal gatherings in Paris and London, signals an intention to come up with solutions, diplomats are already bracing for a pro-Russia group of leaders led by Hungary’s Victor Orbán derailing the whole thing.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

“Nightmare scenario?” This is what’s already happened.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Considering that the Doomsday Clock is set at 89 seconds to midnight, I'd say 5 whole minutes is a lot of time, comparatively.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, the Doomsday clock is kind of fucked at this point. They need to reboot it with the same scale as during the (first?) Cold War.

[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And it was Zelensky who was apparently "Gambling with World War III"... Tough times ahead methinks.

Fuckin Cheeto

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago

Once again for those at the back: every accusation is an admission

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe they could help clue the Democratic party into the seriousness of the situation.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What can they do? They're wiped out, democratically at least until the mid terms. Considering the speed of events, the mid term is too late.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Resist. Be noisy. Throw sand in the gears. There are only so many hours in the day, so even just slowing down the Trump administration's agenda means they break fewer things / grift fewer grifts between now and the midterms.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

There's also the "little" issue of if future elections will even be real.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Hakeem Jeffries, is that you?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The Republicans never seem so pathetic when they are out of power. Besides, they have been (intentionally) pathetic for decades, not six weeks. Do you remember Trump disappearing when he lost to Biden?

At least the midterms is right. This midterm should be an easy sweep for the Democrats, but they are already blowing it. Democratic strategists are already openly declaring their intention to double down yet again on strategies that always fail. No matter how many elections you bungle as a Democratic strategist, they will always take you back.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes they do have more problems than losing the last election. Let’s start with the fact that their plan for the future is to become more like republicans because they think that’s obviously what people want now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I checked it out, this is what the democrats did while in power from 2021-2023

Here's what Biden and Democrats have gotten done over the last 2 years https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm quite familiar with Biden's accomplishments. How much of that won't be undone by Trump? It's no good to make what are really minimalist gains if you are going to throw the next election to a fascist. Biden certainly was an improvement over what we had with Obama and Clinton. So what?

The sad fact is that the Democratic party oligarchs just figured out the populist mood the country is in and gave Biden permission to loosen the reigns a bit. So he partially turned back just a few of the things we lost over the last 50 years. Income inequality continued getting worse though. That cannot continue if this country is going to survive, and neoliberals are incapable of doing anything that doesn't make it worse somehow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Well I guess my thought process is that this country keeps voting in Republicans in Congress, for judge seats, for presidents, so legally how much can they accomplish when they are in control for just 2 years? Personally I think they should target smaller communities and do more grass roots stuff but that doesn't help when such important laws like human rights or environmental protections are being immediately stripped.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's almost as though Democrats are beholden to the same corporate sponsors/donors as the Republicans or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

That’s the weird part. Democrats are beholden to corporations, yes, but republicans are now beholden to the Russian mafia. What a choice we have between them!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

They are definitely the controlled opposition. In some cases it's the same sponsors and in other cases it's not. It's a slightly more benevolent but also more elitist bunch of oligarchs funding the Democrats. There is more overlap in corporate interests though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

They could stand up now. They could offer some resistance.