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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Have alread uses:

  • openProject (though not that much since it was a one time occurance but the software was absolutely great!)
  • xwiki: since a few months (work migrating away from the atlassian clusterfuck). Migration a bit of work but a paid tool did the most part for us. Now using xwiki - most things work the same. Some though had to be realised in a different way (some rare edgecass confluence plugins that were missing in the xwiki store)
  • Mattermost. Using it for years. Its fucking great! Easily the best one on the market! Better than teams and whatnot.

I'll look into the rest of those alternatives! :D

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There really need to be financial incentives to get companies to switch to European IT solutions.

If just a few European enterprises would purchase these products, there would be enough funding to make them very competitive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Absolutely! That's why we want to promote moving to European solutions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

We use Pipedrive and I can we wholeheartedly recommend it. For project management this is missing InLoox, which is a known quantity in German speaking countries.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

YouTrack is great. I wish more companies would consider it instead of Jira.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Actually... I've been working for a comp thats using mattermost. For years.

And its friggin glorious. Its performant, rich in features and is FOSS. Fuggin love it.

Teams and whatever can take a dump on some field. I'm rooting for Mattermost

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

I don't think many people know about Jottacloud, a norwegian cloud storage solution (only 5GB free though)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I love this initiative and looked up something I use a lot at work. I use Confluence for a whole lot of things, often in teams but for myself as well. So I looked up XWiki but found it wasn't really comparable.

Confluence is a SaaS product. It used to be self hostable as well, but I don't think it is anymore. But one of the reasons I use Confluence is because it's very easy to setup and get going. For my own (work) stuff it's free. And when I work with teams from customers it's still very cheap and so easy to get going. This means at the start of the project I recommend to my customer to use it and they often agree right away because it's zero overhead, zero hassle and pretty cheap. It also integrates well with stuff like BitBucket, Trello, Jira etc.

Maybe XWiki is comparable from a feature point of view, but not from a service point of view. Self hosting is not something I want to put time into, so I would have to pay someone to do it. And convincing my customers to do such a thing is a complete no-go.

Are there comparable services either in the form of SaaS or reasonable priced hosted options? I know from a consumer point of view SaaS is the devil, but from a business point of view it's basically the only accepted form right now.

I would love to switch over to EU only products and services, but it has been hard finding the right solutions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Buy the way, I see you posting from the two accounts, but you can just use the one you prefer, no need to keep both 😄

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Oh, I know but thank you! It's just that I started (stupidly) on Lemmy.ca, then became mod, then started an account on the proper server (feddit.org) - and now I would need to migrate. At some point I will.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Nice, first time I hear about a few of these!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I think its more actionable if the left column is labeled "American". I can't imagine that many public sector workplaces are very excited to be using American controlled software and sending all their national defense data to Trump's fiefdom.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

It's not just American software in the infographic. We want to showcase European alternatives for lots of products and companies, not just American.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Atlassian (Jira, Confluence) is Australian.