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Ontario Premier Doug Ford warned that Canada could cut electricity exports to the U.S. in retaliation for Donald Trump’s new tariffs on Canadian goods.

The U.S. imposed a 25% tariff on most Canadian imports, citing border security concerns. Ford emphasized that U.S. states like New York and Michigan rely on Canadian energy and should “feel the pain.”

Canadian officials also announced $155 billion in counter-tariffs.

If enacted, energy restrictions would likely raise prices in the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the two countries.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 35 minutes ago

Do it unilaterally without discussing with US.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 50 minutes ago (2 children)

Why is the fairness meter of the article "unfair left leaning", when it just reports on something someone said?

I don't see any opinion piece there, but pretty much just direct quoting

How can this be even left or right leaning? Oo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 minutes ago

We Americans have a serious problem labeling anything we disagree with as "those other guys". I might even say it's our main problem. We wouldn't be where we're at today without the divisiveness and team mentality.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

It's supposed to be for the publication as a whole, not the specific article. No idea what metric they're using, though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 25 minutes ago

Nah, it's article by article.

Hold us accountable and submit your rating of this article on the meter.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 hour ago

(Copy-pasting from another thread)

I like Cory Doctorow’s plan.

The reason Canada got tariff-free access to sell to the US in the first place? Canada agreed to enforce penalties for tampering with digital locks, following the premise of the Digital Milennium Copyright Act.

If the US is going back on the deal, then Canada should too. Make it legal to jailbreak all US tech.

Doctorow advocating for this plan:

[–] [email protected] 118 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (6 children)

Good for them, maybe our economy will collapse too, and an angry mob will storm the white house and kick Trump out. He can emergency evacuate to Russia, and we can find an administration that isn't insane.

Heyy.. a guy can dream.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 hour ago

I'd prefer we do more than kick Trump out. Like...guillotine them all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 minutes ago

We won't do shit until we are literally starving. Look right here at Lemmy, non-stop memes and stories about how what horrible economic shape we're in. So how is everyone fat?! Meanwhile, I go to work and look at what's for sale, at what prices, and think, "Jesus, people pay for this?!"

Even the Great Depression didn't have us storming the White House. Think on that.

tl;dr: Americans aren't near broke enough to band together.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

Considering he won an undisputed election and at least a quarter of his base are gun nuts, plus police love to use excessive force & violence, that scenario would probably play out poorly for pretty much everyone. I would say try to show conservatives how terrible he really is, but that's not going to happen in Lemmy. I'm not even conservative, I'm anti-authoritarian centrist but even I find this place extremely hostile to conversation with anyone who doesn't embrace the group-think.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Feel free to get on with that angry mobbing.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

sort of the best case scenario

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Im still flabbergasted that so many people are just shrugging at what Trump is doing and saying, well, if only Kamala or the DNC did this or that instead. Maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

In general, the more a person brags about something, the less true it is — and Americans love to brag about how tough and free they are...

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Cept that is what the rich want. Shit to fall apart. Cuz then they get to buy shit up for cheap and consolidate even more wealth.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

The rich aren't going to be buying anything if the dollar is literally worthless. Hyperinflation is no joke.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The Rich(TM) want to buy the dip and buy up property (see project 2025). They need the economy to break but not to completely collapse. And then it will "bounce back" enough that they can transfer their USD to other currencies.

Whether trump's fucking stupidity will accomplish that seems REAL questionable.

That said: Massive power outages (also, this is just the equivalent of a state governor with a crackhead brother saying it to appear strong to Canada's conservatives) might be what this country needs to get out en masse in places other than the blue states.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago

With a dead crackhead brother you mean

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago

Also, they won't be buying anything if they become festive decorations on fences and lampposts across the country.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Turning the lights off and on is usually how you deal with a cranky misbehaving group of children.

So yeah. Let's do it just for the sake of the metaphor.

[–] [email protected] 134 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

As an American, I agree 100%. Canada needs to kick our ass. We deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

I agree with the sentiment but those states are all pretty blue. Trump might just let it happen to widen the divide and somehow claim that it's punishment for not bending the knee.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 hour ago

Given that Canadians don't typically vote in American elections, I don't see how that has anything to do with us or should affect our decision making.

The USA is tariffing us, not just the red states.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 hours ago

Im gonna tell you right now, as a Canadian, we do not care what colour your states are.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago (5 children)

That's some weird logic. Trump enacts tariffs on Canada,who retaliates in kind, so you're worried about blue votes. Trump may claim that after the fact, but he's definitely not playing chess that many moves ahead.

The dude can barely plan a double jump with hopscotch, much less checkers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

That Ozempic chewing orange twat has never physically jumped in his life, let's be honest.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago

Maybe you guys should just kick out the traitors that very obviously work for a foreign government.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

One of Canada's worst politicians says he'll do something useful for once.

Incredible watching the downfall of American hegemony in real-time.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Don't get too excited. Ford loves to talk tough but he's a fucking pussy.

We'll see what actually happens. No one here is holding their breath.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

LCBO is actively removing American products from shelves.

I do think there's more technical problems related to decoupling a massive load from the grid, but Ford does seem to be following through with at least some of the promised retaliations. Time will tell if he keeps it up.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Hey pussies can take a pounding.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 hours ago

R.I.P. Betty White

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

So he’s a big ballsack?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

"to cut" is very different from "could cut"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Yes cut the power. Please do it. Let our stupid government realize they are royally fucking up.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Is it too much to hope this little spat somehow crashes the housing market and this generation can finally own a home? that would be so cool.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 hours ago

Yeah… unfortunately everyone’s pay check will also tank so you still won’t be able to afford it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

Sadly, it would probably crash all of the markets, meaning no one would be able to afford a home because nobody has a job.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

This headline makes it sound way more imminent than I've been lead to believe. The first order of business is just messing with things like Florida orange farms and Kentucky bourbon, then we might escalate.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Need to scan the border to make sure they are not running an extension cord through it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Canada and US are in negotiations to renew the Columbia River Treaty, where the US pays Canada for flood control upstream. They protect the cities along the Columbia River, and the hydroelectric infrastructure on the River, and the bridges. If Canada decides to play hardball, there’s a lot at their mercy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Gotta love living in a "democracy" where one team screws over the entire country and the co-dependent team cheers out of spite.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Hurting New York will only make Trump more popular with his base.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Ford is spineless. I doubt he has the balls to do this

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