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[–] [email protected] 27 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

France is the world's second largest arms exporter

They're not suggesting this out of some noble urge or profound intuition. They just want to move more product through Europe.

Incidentally, the US insisting that Europe should rearm itself is driven in large part because America is the first largest arms exporter.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Their argument would, in your opinion, hold more value if they suggested (and did themselves) buy, for example, korean weaponry?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Their argument would hold if they recognized national defense as a public good rather than a profit center. As it stands, a continent fixated on juicing sales figures is not going to formulate an optimal security strategy. Its just going to become a new ballooning budget hole that feeds into the pockets of middlemen.

There's a huge difference between addressing a security concern and following a perverse incentive. And when politicians can profit from a crisis, you're going to see new existential threats to Europe springing up as fast as business leadership can engineer it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm unsure how this comment answers my question?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Because you're phrasing the problem as "Who do I buy my guns from?" rather than "How do I efficiently secure the borders and deter foreign aggression?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

Ah, you changed my question, and responded to something else. Thanks for explaining.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Suuure, it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that France is the biggest arms manufacturer and exporter in the EU ;)

[–] [email protected] 25 points 18 hours ago

Doesn't mean they were wrong.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Industry and logistics are an integral part of an army. It doesn't stop at soldiers.

That's exactly what's happening in Ukraine: EU lacks (military and other) industry to support very capable soldiers.

The fact that France still has an industry is because they understand the above and value defense. If others did too, Ukraine would be in a better military position.