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People should be allowed to exist

Social programs aren't communism

The system isn't working for the people

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I've changed my mind on this.

Let the DNC go full MAGA and when they lose, because they will lose, they get the heat and we can eject them forever. At least sit them in a corner.

Progressives, you fight if you want but I don't believe the elections will be fair so it's a win win for you.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The…dominance of small-dollar donors? I wish.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If the small donors are dominating... Why would you abandon them?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

Because they’re not giving the bribes that the big donors give. Politicians expect a high paying effortless lobbying job as reward for selling out their country.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The "far left" has a disproportionate influence on policy and messaging?

What a joke.

They're going to use this defeat to blame progressives and Walz (who consistently had the highest favorability of anyone on either side of the race) instead of their conservative cop Kamala.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

They selected Walz because he was polling the best (because he talks like a normal person), and then they basically hid him because they didn't like what he said. Not sure if he did any interviews after the Jon Stewart one where he was slightly too honest about Liz Cheney.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's not mentioned in this excerpt is that this was sponsored by Third Way, a think tank that is singlemindedly devoted to convincing Democrats to cut the left out of the party. God knows the DNC has its problems, but it's misleading to frame this as a mainstream Democratic conference.

"Moderates say party should go moderate" shocker

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

Fascism is not moderate.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Excuse we, what?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (53 children)

The blue MAGA are here on Lemmy and I ran into couple of them. They keep shouting to the rooftops that the Democratic party did nothing wrong and berate Trump voters as stupid and ignorant. But they are tone deaf when you point out that the Democratic party is not willing to run on the platform on Medicare-for-all, build more social housing and increase federal minimum wage (and ditch Israel), which made the party unappealing and lose consistently. Basically, blue MAGA don't want to go left, because even if they are socially progressive on issues, they benefit from wealth inequality because they themselves are affluent in spite of being socially progressive.

Edit: yep, the blue MAGA came out of the woodwork. They think Medicare for all, affordable housing, and increasing minimum wage are red fascism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"26 replies" but I cant see any of them because I have those kinds of idiots blocked

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I see that you have more experience of them than I do.

Turns out that the prominent posters, pugje$u$, is one of the blue MAGA.

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[–] Gobbel2000 10 points 1 day ago

Dear US-Americans, it is time to form a new, progressive party.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd like a list of those who subscribe to this theory to ensure not a single one of them ever gets a vote from me again. I'm an overseas voter and my "home" state is so gerrymandered to shit it doesn't really matter what I do anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is just the other half of the one party state

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (37 children)

Looks like it to me.

Moderates have done nothing but sell their America out for a seat at an empty table. How could anything good come from people who are currently in charge of the shit show called the DNC?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The rightwing coup within the DNC. Those staffers and consultants need to be blacklisted from politics. They have done nothing but drive the country into fascism.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

A good bit of literature has studied the problem and arrived to recommendations that overlap in parts & depart in others with this playbook.

A former parliamentarian of the Hungarian government studied its slide into illiberalism, and suggested remedies for the current, similar trend in the US. Resist in the courts & media, and build a powerful social base at the state & city level throughout the country. The latter means

the Democratic Party must reconnect with the working class to preserve liberal institutions

Doing that means

  1. "creating new and strengthening existing local organizational structures, especially labor unions". Do not focus "on issues important to the active base only" such as "media freedom or democracy": this leads to "failures of mass mobilizations". "[E]ngage with [ordinary people] outside elections, focusing on issues that matter to them".
  2. "[T]o push through popular reforms that elites oppose", free "the party from elite capture" by shifting financing "from the corporate elite to small and micro-donations".
  3. "[C]ommit to left-populist economic policies".
  4. "[L]earn symbolic class politics", "embrace the mundane and be down to earth".

you don’t protect democracy by talking about democracy — you protect democracy by protecting people

I'm seeing the playbook overlap a bit with points 1 & 4, diverge from point 2, and not treat point 3.

Another article reviews research observing a decades-long trend of class dealignment: workers abandoning the left-wing party & joining the right. As unions have weakened and Democrats abandoned them, the party has increasingly relied on & shifted appeal to urban middle class professionals & minorities. The review names 4 paths researched or discussed to reverse dealignment.

  • inclusive populism: "appeal to working-class voters’ sense of resentment at economic elites and stress how elites use racial resentment to divide segments of the working class that share a common interest in economic justice"
  • anti-woke social democ­racy: make "a clean break with factions of the party that embrace unpopular social and cultural messaging that alienates working-class voters"
  • deliverism: "pass and implement large-scale economic reforms that benefit working Americans"
  • institutionalism: reinvigorate a "labor movement capable of advancing working-class interest in politics and [re-embed] Democratic and progressive politics into the lived experiences of working-class communities"

It looks like the playbook is going with anti-woke social democ­racy & institutionalism, rejecting inclusive populism, not mentioning deliverism.

They seem to think the way to win the working class is to go more MAGA-like (anti-woke social democ­racy) instead of trying a competing strategy like inclusive populism. It also looks like they're choosing not to break free of elite capture, which seems like a huge mistake.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I smell bullshit here, but yeah this is definitely a laundry list of exactly the stuff not to do. A moderate democrat is a Krysten Sinema and a Joe Manchin that exactly did a lot of damage to Democrats.

Also, owning up to democratic governance issues of large cities? Republicans run <20% of America's top 50 cities, and 10% of the top 30. Republicans are not in the business of running large cities, so WTF would give credence to them on a topic they literally have no expertise or relevant track record in doing.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Overton window just keeps sliding to the right

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