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I really appreciate how reasonable (IMO) the demands are in the stickied comment in that thread.

Honestly it would be a good business move to accept those terms exactly as presented in that stickied comment. Nothing unreasonable is being suggested there.

In which Reddit will eject the mods and turn them back on

It's amazing what subreddits exist that I had no idea about. I don't know if humanity will ever recover from this loss.

Thank you for posting that, really happy to see so many subs supporting the effort. Hope more will join too but regardless of the outcome, I think I'm staying on lemmy, the interactions here feel different than those on reddit and I enjoy that

Thank you for linking this. Glad to see so many subs continuing indefinitely.

Did you see the comment about r/adviceanimals and r/Tumblr have been forced public by Reddit?

Edit: Anecdotal comment states r/Tumblr had all of its mods leave and was forced public.

Did the same for my 2 accounts, 8 and 12 years old. Really hope spez will regret his decision but I’m not very hopeful.

They’ll be back here again in 2-ish weeks when Apollo and RIF are done.

And when mlem and other apps start rolling out for Lemmy, we’ll start seeing shifts. Apps that have proper accessibility, a clean UI, lack advertising and don’t eat data. And they give you the same Reddit experience without Reddit’s predatory business strategy.

When the blackouts stop, a lot of users will be able to search for Reddit alternatives and will find Lemmy… through Reddit.

I mod a sub with 65K users or so, I plan to go dark indefinitely. Also considering Read-Only with a sticky redirecting here. I know I’m not the only mod.

The Digg > Reddit migration wasn’t overnight. It was fast, though.

While I don't think this was anyone's plan, I think setting it for two days was brilliant by accident. It was short enough (and long enough) that spez dismissed it and pissed people off even more.

It would have been much harder to rally subs to turn off permanently immediately. By doing this, you ease everyone into the idea that this is an indefinite blackout.

The next step will be Reddit admins forcibly taking control of subs that stay blacked out too long for their liking, which will drive even more momentum to stand up to them.

I think this was actually just about the only way for them to completely fuck Reddit over. At this point, spez will need to be fired and the changes rolled back or Reddit has zero chance of a meaningful recovery.

I think another major miscalculation is there was no alternatives agreed on by consensus. For example, if they had said to everyone "go to Lemmy", "go to discord" etc. Now there's no alternative to a lot of subreddits, people will just wait it out and go back to the subreddits when they go back, or if they're indefinitely suspended they'll just make new subreddits.

The 2 day window might at least show that there's a definite interest to join a protest from a wide array of the community. I see it as a warning, meaning if the changes aren't being reversed, there's going to be a lot more communities going dark forever then there is now.

It's only a bad idea if you think you could win concessions with an indefinite strike.

Reddit might get a bunch of subs back tomorrow, but the admin were always going to reopen the good names via reddit request anyway.

And the mods and users aren't likely to go back to happily posting and working for free on a platform that's turned. Communities will be planning organized migrations, and a lot of people here who came because of the strike will discover they like it better here actually.

Yeah, that was a really dumb idea. The subreddits closing indefinitely like r/videos are probably not gonna be enough to make Reddit cave. I wonder if they can even cave though. Maybe believing spez is a dumb idea but if Reddit really isn’t profitable they might need the money from ads and selling data since they are going public

If it turns out like that, I'll be permanently leaving Reddit behind. But for now, there is still just so much good content and good community there, so for me it all depends on the quality subreddits thriving or not. I have 14 years of history there, it's much harder for me to burn my bridges with Reddit than it was with Twitter or Facebook. I'm kind of hoping Reddit switches tack and finds a way to run a sustainable business without becoming an ad-driven hellhole, but for now it seems like they don't really care about their most valuable users, the moderators. I fear we'll be seeing a steady decline in quality subreddits in favor of whatever brings in the most ad money. Pretty sure that won't be /r/askHistorians or its ilk. The IPO is a bad omen, imho. It means revenue and profit will never be enough, and they will be chasing money forever.