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I’ve seen many comments and posts regarding the API fiasco on Reddit, with the claim that there will be a huge influx of users when that happens. I’m all for it, but I find it hard to believe that the average or even above average user will make the effort to switch.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

For what it's worth I deleted my Reddit accounts and Apollo the day that Christian Selig announced Apollo would shut down on the 30th. No clue how many people will follow suit but it stands to reason that if I did others will as well. I think it'll probably be fewer refugees than some are expecting. I don't think it'll be like the Digg migration

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Possibly, if 3rd party apps go dark and that's all some people were waiting on. I assume a good chunk of people already started looking for alternatives around 6/12 when the blackout started, so I doubt it'll be a huge bump. Anyone looking for alternatives after the 30th are the ones who may not even be that serious about it or don't care about the protest, so they're just as likely to just move over to the "official" Reddit app (formerly a 3rd party app itself called Alien Blue), just as Reddit intended.

I was already planning on deleting my comments/posts/accounts on 6/30 if Reddit didn't back down, and given that their behavior has gotten even worse I'm not seeing any reason to back down from that. Hell, at this point, even if they backed down on the API thing, just their behavior since 6/12 has shown me that I don't really want to have anything to do with that site anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The vast majority will just download the official app or quit using the site. I don't suspect all that many will end up here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The 30th? No. The 2nd? Maybe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As much as I'm enjoying Lemmy, I don't see the vast majority of Reddit users making the switch to anything. Mastodon, Lemmy, and kbin are far too obscure, and most people use Reddit for pino and memes. People just aren't very technologically inclined and Reddit satisfies the dopamine fix for most regular visitors.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If these means we'll be able to have intelligent conversations like the old days of Reddit. I'm all for it. I posted more here than in my 9 years in Reddit. Karma destroyed conversations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You mean you don't like all the top comments on a serious discussion post just being a bunch of low effort memes and puns??? But the content is the comments you guys! They're so funny I promise!!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Idk, there are a few avenues that require shockingly little work. Setting up an account on lemmy.world took all of 2 minutes, and then another 2 to find and install Connect. The final result, about 5 minutes after I started, is a home page mostly indistinguishable from the home page of my 3rd party Reddit app.

For those wondering, search "Connect for Lemmy" on Google play store (idk if it's on iOS yet).

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really enjoy the idea of open source, so earlier today I started thinking isn't that the direction the reddit community should take? Couple of minutes and a search later i found Lemmy and thought it was the coolest concept ever. I may not be most reddit users, but the actions reddit have taken certainly got me here. Lack of apps on ios may be problematic as i don't think most users will think of using web apps (or whatever they're called)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same here. I may still visit Reddit from time to time, but after getting things going here a few days ago I was reminded what a breath of fresh air an effectively ad-free community can be. Also looking forward to multiple iOS app options in the future.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I was an average user, I think. And was on the mobile web version not any app. But came over here when the subs went dark and wouldn't say it took effort. If they block NSFW except on the native Reddit app, maybe yes there will be an exodus. The native app makes my head hurt, it's truly awful and not easy to navigate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I already switched over. But I guess majority of 3rd party app users are still waiting for the last moment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit is gigantic, and while Fediversal alternatives are gaining users rapidly there's a long ways to go.

A useful way to look at it is, we don't have to defeat Reddit. We're creating a community as an alternative. Reddit hasn't lost a large number users when judged as a percentage of their base, but many of the people who are leaving are the ones who see where it's going, and are the power users, the knowledgeable people, the cool people. The ones who make Reddit a place worth being.

It's the same with Twitter. A lot of Twitter and Reddit users just keep their heads down and use the service, as it goes to hell around them. A lot of people join social media sites because it's where other people are, or it's where their friends are. People who joined when social media finally broke the internet away from being mostly the domain of the technically inclined. Even now, a lot of people mostly use it for streaming. These people may not leave Twitter or Reddit ever, because they really don't care about it. But the people who were big internet users, or would have been were old enough in the late 90s or early 2000s, those are the kinds of people that Reddit, and Twitter, are losing.

Now, there are a lot of people on Twitter who I'd have thought have jumped ship by now, but to many people admin decisions feel like they have only a theoretical impact unless it affects their experience, or themselves, directly. The best thing that can be done is just keep on being awesome, and make cool posts that can't be found elsewhere. Once a community gets a reputation for that, people will come naturally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

undefined> many of the people who are leaving are the ones who see where it’s going, and are the power users, the knowledgeable people, the cool people. The ones who make Reddit a place worth being.

From the little of this community I've seen thus far, it seems like the average comment quality is higher than recent Reddit. Though that is usually the case in the early days of social networks as they tend to start with more motivated, passionate and informed users who have actually heard of them and are willing to put time and effort into them before they are proven.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Take my poor man's gold 🏅

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe a bit but it won’t be a tsunami, most Redditors don’t care about the Reddit backend or mods or api changes. Don’t forget we’re just a vocal minority.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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