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I absolutely believe the Fediverse needs to remain a space built on transparency, autonomy, and equity for users, instance admins, and developers working on ActivityPub. Look at the current state of social media, power and money concentrated in the hands of a few, stifling innovation and undermining trust. The centralized model isn’t just flawed, I think it’s had a devastating impact on an entire generation.

The Fediverse offers us a chance to rethink how the internet should work. It’s not just about being a space for free expression; it’s also about proving that a values-driven model can support those who keep the lights on. My main question is, can we implement monetization that honors our commitment to fairness, transparency, and equity, while still ensuring that the people supporting the network earn a livable wage?

This isn’t about getting rich, it’s about creating a sustainable ecosystem that empowers us all to build and maintain a trustworthy digital space. The Fediverse is already a success in its own right, but to truly evolve and thrive, I would argue we need a resource model that can drive sustainable innovation and meaningful progress.

TL;DR: I’d quit my day job tomorrow if I could secure a living wage from this work. Many in tech whold do the same. Is a monetization model that fairly compensates those who support and sustain the Fediverse possible?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Look at what nostr community is doing with zaps, I think it's cool

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

isn't nostr overrun with cryptobros?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago

Cryptobros aren't really present on there, at least I never encounter such people. But it's mainly a "Bitcoiner Bubble" and that's why I have some issue with staying on there regularly, I don't like mind-bubbles. However there is some amazing experimentation on there with Value4Value or tipping sats (fractions of bitcoins) instead of liking, local-side open source algorithmes that you can choose and change and the thing I'm most excited about is Ditto which is a community server that act as a Nostr relay AND an ActivityPub instance.

I think Nostr is superior to ActivityPub because you don't need accounts, it's authentification is based on asymetrical cryptographic keys which enable digital identities without a central server. However I use the Fediverse more because it is more mature, less mind-bubble and fucking better than commercial, centralized plateforms with opaque algorithmes that you have no control over.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Lot of terrible ideas here, if any of them are implemented lemmy loses a lot if value, donation model works, if a server cant survive itll shutdown and well end up in a better situation since the whole point was to not have centralized servers. Mfs talking about adding ads when this platform barely provides value lol. Like are you serious, at least most platforms with ads developed their own platform and arent just launching someone elses work on a server

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

If you want lemmy instances to be better off reduce the load, make your own or join a less popular one, joining a bigger one isn't a good thing (im a hypocrite, im on lemmee)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Still learning about the fediverse, but... What about a simple percentage system so you can donate whatever you want. A large portion goes to the instance that you register with and smaller portions go to Lemmy programmers. Maybe portions can be set aside for parts of the fediverse that we all use like gif/video hosting. I'd say make the percentages the same across the fediverse so people know what goes where.

Personally I'd prefer monthly giving like patreon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've been wondering if there's an opportunity for instance admins (e.g. lemmy.world) to offer managed instances for user domains.

It would be great if it was easier for the average person to own a domain and use it for email, matrix, Lemmy, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You mean a bit like WordPress.com model?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Possibly, but I'm not very familiar with wordpress.

I imagined something like:

https://nextcloud.com/partners/

The idea is that I could pay someone to admin the same services that they provide to the public.

So like maybe lemmy.world and the other popular instances could offer a Lemmy instance, and maybe also offer: matrix, pixelfed, mastodon, etc etc.

There are decent options out there for mainstream services like email, web, etc. but maybe not for more niche services like lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Realistically no

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Well depends if we're talking for instance admins, developers or users/mods. Would probably need different models.

Sub.club wasn't successful in offering a content monetization model on the fediverse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I think keep it donation based. Perhaps do a Lemmy gold where u can donate to boost a comment/post and said donation is split between content creator community instance etc.

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