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[–] [email protected] 139 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The optimist in me says they're doing this to avoid piracy.

The pessimist in me says they're doing this so they can purge books because of the Trump administration.

Either way, I can't say I'm a fan.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago

Por que no Los dos?

You will own nothing and like it!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The optimist in me says they’re doing this to avoid piracy.

Won’t pirates just buy their source copies on a different platform, so now Amazon loses the original sale as well?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

The "original sale" in that case is not even pennies. So... not sure why amazon would care?

Also: Many smaller authors basically depend on kindle because of the ease of use of the web portal and incentives to do larger discounts for their audiences. One of my favorite guilty pleasures has talked about exactly this (although he IS investigating alternatives).

And, much like with video games: The Sandersons of the world will be pirated. MAYBE a Dalglish will be too. But nobody cares enough to go after a Samphire or Shel.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

both seem just as terrible to me

[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Reminder that piracy is a service issue.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

100%. I have always pirated, but the amount of things I pirated went way, way down when Netflix had a decent library of things to watch and was affordably priced.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Absurd. Glad I have a Kobo.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

Yep. Not to gloat, but I never touched Amazon's ebook marketplace.

My current e-reader is a second-hand Kindle that has a permanent message asking if I would just please connect to a WiFi network just one time just for a moment PLEEEEEASE.

I get my books from libgen, Gutenberg, or Kobo, and keep them on my computer. They're organized in Calibre, and I transfer them over on a USB cable.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know I switched ages ago but I've never managed to port my existing library of ebooks off the kindle

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I switched to Kobo a few years and couldn't be happier. I hated supporting Amazon.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's why I avoided Kindle and picked a Kobo. Sure you can remove DRMs from the books you've bought. But at some point they could block you from doing that. They can change anything at anytime and there's nothing you can do about it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

That is no different than Kobo. Thus far, Rakuten have been pretty good about not caring more than the bare minimum. But there is nothing stopping them from doing the same bullshit with firmware updates to the kobos and drm updates to the store and apps.

I am finally migrating from kindle to kobo (tried kindle to boox last year and it was bad...) but I am under no illusions that I am just hoping one company is better than another. I mean, the other is Amazon so it is a pretty safe bet. But still.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Well there's a key difference, Kobo allows epub. I don't think they could legally remove it from devices already on the market?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ugh, thanks for the warning. Time for me to download and de-drm all my old kindle books and never again buy anymore.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This is why you never connect your kindle to the internet. Calibre forever

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I sure am glad I got a Kobo for myself for Xmas and ripped all my books to it. Guess I'll be recycling my Kindle for good.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I just got a Kobo color (don't recommend the color feature; no book is ever going to use it except the red-letter Bible and House of Leaves) and gifted the old Kindle to a friend. I e-reader is an awesome gift actually because for a lot of people it's something they would never evenly in years take a chance on, but that they would love it if they tried.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If your model accepts a custom OS, some of them make decent e-ink displays for weather, family photos, etc. Things look good in the black and white ones especially.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its possible to buy DRM free ebooks from itch.io and it is where I get everything that I can.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Adding on to this that Barnes and Noble sells DRMed ePUB files that are relatively easy to strip DRM from using Calibre.

So if you can't find a book anywhere else, at least they don't use a proprietary format and still allow you to download your books using their PC software.

I was a semi-early adopter in the ebook space and I have refused to get onboard with the kindle ecosystem from the start. There's no reason for their proprietary format other than complete control over things they pretend to sell you. Amazon is also the Walmart of books and uses their position to browbeat publishers and authors into taking smaller cuts of sales.

One of my friends got a book published and I waited and waited for it to be available anywhere else. Eventually just bought what was probably a print on demand copy from Amazon because that's the only place his publisher sold books. I never buy physical books anymore but I'd rather do that than buy a kindle book.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Kobo.com DRM is also very easy to bypass and turn into epub using knock

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You know I am starting to think going to the library is a better idea than buying their products. You can literally just walk in.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The only surprising thing about this is that the functionality existed in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

early models didn't have wifi, only usb or cellular from one provider or another--and those models' 3g connectivity was killed off years ago.

this will obsolete all the non-wifi kindles still in use.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can still use calibre to sideload onto them. Where you get the books is another issue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

So it just obsoletes them for the model users that buy ebooks from Amazon and put them on their Amazon device without conversion in between. Even though this user group should be Amazon's favourites.

lol, lmao even.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Knew this would happen

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

I'm glad I started converting all my amazon books long ago. When I finally got a Kobo last month, there were no issues since the work was done.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If only there were some way to get books to read in a format where a billionaire's trillion dollar company can't gatekeep them.

Some sort of physical product, perhaps one made out of trees?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If only there was a library for geniuses where I can read in a format that billionaires aren't able to gatekeep what I read on my e-ink device.

Some sort of website, perhaps one on the internet?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I recommend actually listening to some authors.

The "gatekeeping" back in the days before ebooks was infinitely worse than it is now. These days? Basically anyone who can fill out a webform can publish a kindle book. And other stores aren't much harder. And those ebooks can be sold indefinitely.

Contrast that with needing to find a publisher who is willing to allocate some of their limited production time to you. And then hope that Borders et al are willing to put you on the shelf. And then realize that you are never getting another penny for that book because the first MMPB run ran out and you aren't getting a second because you didn't sell enough to justify it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'm quite glad that I never bought fully into Kindle/Nook/Kobo and instead went with an eInk Android tablet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Kobo connected to calibre web is the ultimate freedom/privacy ereader

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which model did you end up with? Do you like it?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I rarely use my Paperwhite Signature since I like my Boox Nova 2 more. The Kindle is mostly just for the serial now to strip DRM via Calibre.

My wife recently joked that it’s my “Kindle Paperweight.” With this announcement it’s no longer a joke. I doubt I’ll buy anymore books from Amazon.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I’m guessing audible will follow soon after.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is why I almost never get any Digital Book. The only digital books I have are books that were free either originally or through a giveaway, or that were severely discounted and I already owned physically. That's also why I don't buy movies or TV series digitally. You're just renting these things, and you're only renting them when you have an internet connection.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

You can download and keep countless ebooks from https://annas-archive.org/

🏴‍☠️

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I noticed this feature wasn’t available for my Colorsoft and asked support about it. They assured me it would be added later. This is exactly what I expected to happen.

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[–] __init__ 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’m waiting for them to get rid of the send-to-kindle email thing to receive books from calibre. I’m surprised it has survived for this long. I’ve wanted to try out a kobo but can’t justify it cause my 10+ year old kindle still works perfectly fine for reading. But once they remove that feature or drop support for my device, it’s kobo time.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well fuck... Guess i'll need too look at what is available for ebook downloads i my arr stack to get books for my kobo.

The kobo store is mostly useless, and there are limited options available for buying ebooks here, so amazon has been the best option for likely finding what i was looking for.

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