First comment in the Fediverse. Fuck Reddit.
this post was submitted on 08 Jun 2023
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I literally just signed up for lemmy after reading this post on reddit. I’m ready for reddit to crash. Decentralized apps seem like the way to go. It seems super short-sighted on Reddit’s part to be basically extorting all these 3rd party apps that are super popular.
Welcome! It's a bit rough around the edges here but the devs are making changes every day and the community is better than I thought.
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Unfortunately, I doubt Reddit would crash. I don't think these online protests have much sway anymore. Twitter's definitely didn't. And ironically, Lemmy might crash a couple times with going over user capacity...
Either way, we ought to work to avoid it. Chop chop, people, content, we need content! Lifeblood of link aggregators is people having topics.
I think the thought of major subs going private out of protest has them at least a little worried. Worried enough to try to backtrack on the changes that will affect moderators to "give them more time", but only if they don't participate in the blackout.
Sounds a lot like threatening at this point (and who knows if they'll follow through with their promises if even one sub goes dark), which ironically is the same thing they accused the Apollo dev of doing to the Reddit team.
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I'm one of those that nuked my Reddit account too... Was a Boost user for many, many years. Tens of thousands of contributions in the way of posts and comments and this move by them was the straw that broke the camel. The place is a shell of what it was in the early days sadly. Year by year it's seemingly declined.
I'm done with it and moving on to pastures a new :)
So far, I'm really impressed with Lemmy !
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is facebookification a word? I am so sad to see this happen as a long time user of Reddit, been on there for...god, 11 years according to my profile awards. I see a lot of people saying this is the end of Reddit but I have to disagree, it is more like a new age. Reddit will now only be used by people who are fine with getting absolutely fucked with ads and close to nil moderation. I imagine it will be a husk of what it once was - it'll look the same but I'm sure it will just be repost land. It wasn't hard to see this coming, but I can't help but feel a sadness.
Do I need to go outside more? Probably.
RIP
With the Fediverse slowly gaining steam, I've been thinking a lot about the structural problems with the big social media platforms of old. I really feel like we set ourselves up for this outcome. Of course Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit were going to let us down sooner or later. We placed our trust in private centralized companies to stay good on their ethics. The moment money even entered the discourse in those spaces, they were doomed to become what they are now. I really hope Lemmy and Mastodon and Frendica and Peertube and the other Fediverse platforms can gain popularity. We have a real chance here to build social media from the ground up, but this time with the long term ethics in mind. I really think this decentralized structure can allow us to keep more transparency and allow for smaller feeling communities to thrive without being subject to tyrannical administration.
Edit: Corrected "momey" to "money". Really sounded like a weird fetish there, I am sorry. Momey is not entering the discourse in any spaces, thank you very much.
Any time I talk about decentralized apps to friends and family I come across as some kind of conspiracy driven weirdo. I do not understand why decentralization comes across as some kind of extreme radical movement. I'm not protesting or anything, everything else just sucks lol
Maybe use familiar terms? Skip the tech jargon, and go straight to things like "Reddit and Twitter and Facebook are boring old media with crappy apps and adds everywhere; the cool kids are now hanging out on Mastadon and Lemmy". But you have to really own it.
"Decentralized" means nothing to most people, or worse has been associated with crypto scams, and the stereotypical Bitcoin proselytizer. The truth is, most people can't handle all that information.
You have to appeal to emotion. Statements like "decentralization prevents interference by third parties... Blablabla" will just go over people's heads if they can't relate to an abstract concept. Say something like "My family/friends in /country/ can't buy anything with their local currency because of hyperinflation, so now they all us USD or even Bitcoin" instead. That will appeal to people's emotions.
In the case of the fediverse an appeal to emotion might look like "Reddit has just turned to shit. It's not the platform I first joined. A lot of us have moved to Lemmy and it reminds us of when we first joined Reddit."
Also, just don't push the subject. Some people are not ready to follow you. Let people figure out the benefits at their own pace. Otherwise they get defensive, and you'll do more to make yourself look like a crazy from that place than to convince.
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I'm not too surprised that Reddit would go so far as to lie about somebody blackmailing them. This is a disgusting thing to do to someone who's bringing people to your website.
I have over a decade on Reddit across several accounts and if I can't use Sync on Android or Apollo on iOS then I just wont even browse on mobile. They already killed i.reddit and compact, their browser experience is intentionally shit to try and get you to install their app.
If the day ever comes that old.reddit is shut down I will overwrite all of my comments and delete my account
I definitely think old.reddit is next in line. I wonder what bullshit they’ll spun up to get rid of it.
Probably some BS about "server costs" or "difficulty coding for both old and new reddit" or some other stock excuse.
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I think this is the end for reddit maybe after june 30th apollo users will be slowly migrate to official reddit app or another platform. This event will generate massive traffic for lemmy. The great thing about reddit is before the API rules reddit is called as mini internet. Everyone shared most valuable content and mods maintained the communities from spam their work is most valuable thing and thank you for all your work.
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I think more people are going to quit Reddit than migrate to anything else. Apollo is such an ingrained experience for iOS users that anything else wouldn’t be worth it.
This week has been full-on-crisis mode for us devs too. Reddit is not making things easy on us.
Hey, i just want to say that i really appreciate everything you're doing. Tons of awesome work.
And i know I'm not alone.
Where should i donate? Either time or money or both? Server costs, app dev costs(i know you also develop jerboa), etc.
But really i just wanted to say thank you. We all really appreciate your efforts. I know it's gotta be overwhelming at the moment so it's nice to just hear that once in a while. You're very much appreciated.
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RIF is closing down too. I'm using Sync for more than 8 years and it has not been yet announced but it will certainly shutdown too 😔
The Sync dev has announced that it will be shutting done too.
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I’ve been a Reddit user for many years. It was a great run but I’m moving here. For now I’m missing quit a few favorite communities but that should improve with time.
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ReddPlanet dev came to the same decision. Gutted tbh. After more than 13 years I'm done for good with that place. Shoutout to all the 3rd party devs. You deserve better, and I hope you find success with any new project you might launch in the future.
Remember when in September 2017, Reddit decided to no longer be open-source? Well it was precisely to prepare for this specific scenario. Embrace, Extend, Extinguish and we're finally on step 3.
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My wife uses reddit, and couldn't be bothered to use anything other than the official app. Sadly she's in the majority with this. I'd say somewhere between 5-20% of mobile only/heavy reddit users will end up over here, and that's heavily dependent on whether or not the subreddits that they like come over here too. I see far too much content for the moment just linking back to reddit
The question is: Are users like your wife submitting popular content, or are they mostly consumers? If nobody submits good content, there is nothing to consume.
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ah shit. This massively sucks.
It would be cool to see Christian develop a lemmy client, kind of like how Tapbots made Ivory after the Twitter API closed down.
Instead of closing down it would be cool for 3rd party apps to switch to Lemmy but I know it would be a lot of work.
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It's definitely a shame that reddit is making these changes. The fall of reddit is going to have pretty negative affect for a lot of people.
I'm no fan of corpo platforms—I'd love more widespread adoption of open protocols and software—but I don't want _users_ to get hurt by the loss.
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The more I dive the worse it smells. Willing to bet this situation would be less worse if they just came out and said "Alright guys sorry but we're banning 3rd party apps", instead they make more and more lies
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Sad day, I’ve been using Apollo for years 😭
It's a beautiful app. Disappointing it'll just go to waste rather than try to interface it with the Fediverse.
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Makes literally no sense to me that Reddit couldn't afford to provide a price exception to 3rd party apps that have helped grow their community and website over the years. I've been using Reddit Is Fun for almost a decade now, and I'm not switching to their official app.
Companies are getting too comfortable when they have no competition. Really hope a Fediverse alternative will kick off like Mastodon did (ironically I'm placing my bets on kbin even though I use Lemmy. Seems like the simpler alternative that'll be easier to invite people over).
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Well that seals it. I'm here for good. I'll even commit now that if Lemmy doesn't work out, still not going back.
The next couple of weeks are going to be ROUGH here. New instances spinning up, and existing ones grinding to a halt under the weight of new users. This is going to be a hell of a stress test.
But it should also make this space truly viable for users. We should expect more people to bounce than to stay, but it's starting to look like we've already crossed a critical threshold for sustainability.
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@dylan this part is WILD!
It appears spez was caught red handed lying
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I've used Relay for more than 8 years. /u/DBrady hasn't officially closed it down, but it is clear that it will be closed as well.
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🫡 Sad to see it happen. Best of luck to the dev(s) in their future endeavours.
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