It's really ironic and embarassing. The most valuable chip manufacturer in the world, thanks to advances in AI and AI research, which is usually done using Linux systems. And yet Nvidia still sucks hard when it comes to Linux support.
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Nvidia graphics support.
Their money is in headless systems, which TBF are much less problematic with Nvidia. Anything CUDA is first class on Linux with Windows as an afterthought.
1000% on the money here. You want encode, decode, calculation, acceleration? They got it. Rock solid, beautiful and simple. You want that shit to actually SHOW UP ON SCREEN? Get the fuck outta here. What do you think nVidia is, a GRAPHICS CARD company!?
You want that shit to actually SHOW UP ON SCREEN? Get the fuck outta here. What do you think nVidia is, a GRAPHICS CARD company!?
I pray for no blackscreen after every update, and I'm not even using it! It's hooked up to an AMD IGP!
CUDA always works though, lol.
Anything CUDA is first class on Linux with Windows as an afterthought
Not in my experience.
You also need the damn driver to work for CUDA. Nouveau doesn't cut it for that.
I wouldn't call their Windows support stellar, either. There's only one error code for any and all problems and RTXes can be damn finicky if you're unlucky.
Latest kernel, wayland, NVIDIA dGPU greater than RTX 900, latest proprietary NVIDIA driver and correct vulkan packages for said driver:
Donβt see any issues, really
What does not work?
Maybe some install steam and choose wrong vulkan dependency π€
Or have vulkan dependency for nouveau installed prior to switching to nvidia drivers
I just wonder why pacman not automatically chooses the correct dependency π but I am sure there is a reason
This is why I don't update Nvidia drivers unless there's a fix I need. If it's stable, that's all I want.
Until the GPU cooks itself anyway, because nvidia can't admit their new power connector was a mistake.
Seems to be less about the connector, but more about load balancing. The German guy who had 150Β°C connectors at the PSU side also measured current draws. One cable was doing 22 A (so almost half of the 5090's total consumption) while the other ~~7~~ five were just chilling.
Nvidia connected all six cables like they were one and have no way to measure or balance the load across all six.
They used to do load balancing on the 30 series, treating it as 3 cables basically (3x2 cables).
That's true, but once my apartment is on fire, I don't really care if it was the cable or the connector.
My insurance might be interested, though.
You're never gonna push the technological envelope with that attitude, bro.
That's fine.
How about both?
I'd expect the design to take into account this kind of issue, they're only one of the most valuable companies in the world, surely they can afford some QA.
Surely that's fixed by now, right? SURELY
Don't worry, Nvidia got you covered: it also likes to occasionally break with kernel updates.
Some people "I don't care why it doesn't work, it's Linux's fault!"
Not just some..
They should just buy a PC build for linux with it preinstalled
Like, tuxedo, system67(or whatever number they have) or I think framework is available like that as well.
Except all those Linux specific privacy/modularbility orientated PCs are expensive as hell with base models starting close to 1k last I checked. They're aimed at the demographic of cushy tech nerds making bank tapping at a keyboard who care about opsec or right to repair and can comfortably afford dropping 1k on a new laptop without thinking twice about if that money has better uses.
I and many others who don't live in economic lah-lah land will NEVER be able to justify 1k spent on a laptop just because it has physical kill switches or modular parts and preloaded with a good Linux distro. These companies need to touch grass and come down a couple hundred dollars to the 400-500$ range then we can talk. Until that day comes, the guy selling librebooted thinkpads on eBay running popos or mint is the better option for those who live with the reality of not having a lot of money.
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Its not just Linux. NVIDIA sucks on windows too, but those PCMR types aren't willing to admit it.
Yeah, I donβt buy nvidia for this exact reason. No amount of performance matters if the drivers are broken
Yeah, I had to exchange my laptop for another one with an AMD GPU because Wayland was so broken, and I was getting serious input lag in games, even on X11.
And this was a few months ago. NVK worked a bit better, but compatibility wasn't great, and performance was about 50% of the proprietary driver.
Just upgraded my EndeavourOS (Arch btw) and saw Nvidia driver update. Reboot, KDE came up successfully, OK, good. Play game, stuttering right on the title screen. π
From my idiot troubleshooting with Nvidia in the past, I disable "Allow screen tearing in fullscreen windows." Test, runs perfectly now. The funny thing is that I had to enable that option in the past to make the same stuttering go away. π€·ββοΈ
Someone suggested maybe that option doesn't matter and I just had to start the game multiple times because of shader cache? IDK, but I do know that my next card will be AMD.
Modern Proton versions should compile shaders beforehand, I know what you describe from when it had to do it in realtime. If it happens again try clearing the Shader Cache in the Steam Settings or switch to a newer Proton version.
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How? I have a 4060ti and it works well enough on wayland
Which distro? You perhaps lucked out so far. Anyone using Linux for multiple years can attest for the trash that are Nvidia drivers, especially once you compare it to AMD (who, outside of professional applications, usually don't need any driver install or setup at all).
I haven't had any problems on Linux Mint with a 3060 Ti aside from some artifacting when I try to do screen recordings (unless I disable flipping).
EDIT: I've had that GPU for about 2 years. I had a 1050 Ti for about 4 years before that.
Actually now that I think about it an update did break my graphics at one point, but that might've been partially my fault. I just reverted and reinstalled the same update right after though, and that worked just fine, so it wasn't a huge deal.
Overall I would say its been more than 10 years since I've had an actual major graphics issue (having to open xorg.conf).
I'm not that person but I impulse switched to Garuda (Arch-based) around 8 months ago with a 3080 and everything has just worked, the only thing I've had problems with is flatpak being the bane of my existence
Yeah same, 4070 ti super on garuda, no issues.
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Fk me. I just saw an Nvidia package in my apt upgrade. Am I going to be screwed ?
No, just upgraded from a working computer to an up to date not working computer.
Timeshift time
The best thing I ever did was configure prime offloading so basically everything but games runs on my integrated graphics.
Still borked my graphics a few times setting that up, but I'm on nixos so it wasn't a big deal.
But before:
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I'm wanting to switch my gaming PC to mint from Windows. I'm new to Linux, that's why I'm going with mint. What GPU should I buy for my use? (RTX is not important to me. I just need it to play my games well)
If you already have one, just try that, see if it works.
You'll probably be fine with anything, NVidia's gotten to work well over the last year or two. If you want to be safe any AMD card should work well.
I'd just buy the best used AMD card in your budget.
I have a RTX 3050 mobile with Intel cpu laptop. So far... Everything works fine on fedora and arch. I haven't installed Debian based on it however
I know mint is often said to be the friendly new distro.
I've heard good things about Bazzite. Like really good things.
I'm currently running Endeavour OS. As soon as I get a chance, I'm planning on checking out Bazzite.
If you are going in fresh, I think Bazzite is something to try for a week or so.
I can vouch for Bazzite and always will as long as they keep up the solid work. Running on a laptop (gnome variant for easier fingerprint login) and desktop (KDE, cuz I just prefer KDE day to day). It just worksβ’οΈ.
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RX 9070 when it comes out, Mint is good but there are so many good options. I suggest using cachyos and trying out all the DEs so you pick something you like. Although you don't have to stick with CachyOS if you don't want to.
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