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Can we fix job sites? (raphael.lullis.net)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/experienced_devs

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree for the most part. Maybe I’m just being nostalgic for the 00s, but I appreciated the model where job seekers have freeish access to apply for jobs and hirers had to pay a nominal fee to post jobs.

I worked at mostly small software companies, so we would always use the cheapest options. Even at our scale (where we were transparent about not paying that much), there were so. many. terrible applicants. Exaggerated or make up skills and experience. Clearly don’t read any of the job description. It took a lot of time to sift though them. I can only imagine what the volume of shit applicants was at large companies hiring lots positions.

I get why they resorted to buying all this AI fuckery to try to more aggressively filter resumes. I get why it got shittier for honest job seekers. But it’s a shitty arms race I don’t want to be in. It must be awful for juniors with no experience and no network to try to find a first job now. It was bad enough 20 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm curious about what do you mean by "cheapest options". Do you remember how much you were paying then?

IIRC, StackOverflow Careers kind of established the price per posting around $300. After they came up every other job posting site was charging around that.

For CareerCupid, I want to make a single flat rate of $89/month and let companies make as many job listings as they want. I think that the value for a company should not be in charging per posted job, but to give them access to the whole database in a way that can help them make hiring decisions directly.

I get why they resorted to buying all this AI fuckery to try to more aggressively filter resumes.

I get it as well, but I think that this "send us your resume" and we will judge you based on it is such an outdated concept we could get rid of it entirely.

Imagine if we got something like Wikidata applied to the "professional social network" graph of the whole world. If "let's set out to build a map of all the ~2 billion people who are economically active" was somewhat impossible to think about 20 years ago, today it's the kind of project that can be easily managed on modest infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

StackOverflow is nowadays famous for being the site that you only go after you’ve given up ChatGPT to stop hallucinating

If your first instinct is to ask chatGPT, no amount of reformation to "Job Sites" will affect you. At all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And if your first instinct is to comment on a joke, in the first paragraph to pass judgement...?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes.
Didn't read like a joke, you need an editor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I completely agree.

(I want to try something different here. Instead of a fully fleshed out post, I’d like to just start with a draft of some ideas and I hope that it is enough to generate a conversation. I’ll take the relevant responses and use them to keep improving this article)

But if you were so eager to give feedback, perhaps you could've started with something more productive than yet-another smutty comment that serves only to make you feel better than the plebs who use and get any value out of ChatGPT?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Bud, do you know what "smutty" means?

I'm not an editor, I'm not your editor, and I don't give shit away for free. A disclaimer doesn't absolve you from what comes after, it just prepares your audience for the beating you're about to take in the comments.