this post was submitted on 27 Jun 2023
37 points (97.4% liked)

retrocomputing

4151 readers
9 users here now

Discussions on vintage and retrocomputing

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Hayes 1200. Anyone know why these things were built to be bombproof? Always kinda wondered about that...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

300 baud home made.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

300 baud C64

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First was a Novation CAT 110/300 baud with acoustic coupler. Later I got a Practical Peripherals 1200, then a Zoom Telephonics 2400/9600. Then I bought a US Robotics Courier HST, it cost a ridiculous amount at the time. A few years later was working and I mailed it and an actual check to USR and they swapped it for a Courier vEverything (with the 20Mhz DSP). I still have that modem and a newer vEverything I salvaged.

+++ATH0
OK
*NO CARRIER*
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

C64 VICModem. 300 baud, manual dial. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That was my first one as well.

My first PC modem was the US Robotics Sportster 14400 FAX Modem. A cool feature was that you could flip a couple of bits and it would do 19200. USR reportedly grumbled about that breaking the warranty and using it against its design limits, but it worked great.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

300baud from work. Fun times logging in with it. Eventually moved to 2400baud.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Supra 2400, to LineLink 144E, to Practical Peripherals 28.8 (all of these external). Being a kid I was limited to upgrading when birthday and holiday money was saved up.

To one way broadband with this weird box containing a 56kbps modem you plugged a phone cord into for the uplink and a 1.5mbps downlink over cable coax. Bi directional broadband wasnt available yet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

First one that I had myself was a 300 baud acoustic modem. It came in a wooden box that was about the size of a shoe box but more square.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

My brother had an acoustic coupled 300 baud modem for his C64, but that stuff was off limits to me. My first was a 2400 baud on ISA card, I bought for the family IBM XT Clone when I was maybe 13, I came up with the money with a hustle. I bought an old lionel train set at a garage sale with $20, sold it to a train shop for $100 (they probably screwed me over). It was my first pc component install, I remember setting the dip switches for the IRQ channel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know the model, but my first modem was 2400 baud

Downloading anything took forever but it was still a magical experience to me!

I couldn't figure out how to silence the modem sounds either (if it was even possible) so every time I wanted to use the computer when someone in the house was sleeping I had to pray the connection sounds wouldn't wake anyone up!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ATL0 or ATM0 should have silenced it. Unfortunately I had to use the Internet to look that up. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

saving this for when time travel is invented so I can go back and tell my younger self, my mother would appreciate it!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The TelePort Gold II came in at a speedy 14.4 Kbps. It came with my Macintosh Performa.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Apple Geoport Telecom Adapter: 9600 baud.

I’m reading up on it now to confirm actual details match my memory, and seeing that it was software upgradable up to 33.6 kbps. I don’t think we ever actually did that, seeing as how our Macintosh Centris 660AV was never upgraded past the System 7.1 it came with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

14.4k that was more consistent as 9600. Packard Bell ISA modem.

Later I went 33.6 and went off to college with a 56k external modem that was supported by FreeBSD.

I think I used to be able to tell the different speeds by the handshake sound.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

My first modem was a Dataphone s21 (German Akustikkoppler) for the Commodore C64. It gave me breath-taking 300 baud on the data highway (aka boards).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It was a Radio Shack 300 baud modem. A little googling seems to indicate is would likely have been a Tandy DCM-3 “Direct Connect” (as opposed to acoustic coupler) modem.

It was in-line between the wall and a phone so you would pick up the phone, dial the number, head the modem tone, press a red button on the top of the modem and hang up the phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Mine was a 300/1200 baud modem which if memory serves correctly ran mostly @ 300.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

300 baud, I wish I could remember what brand it was. I think I had it hooked up to my Apple ][+ and dialed in to College.

[–] mrkite 3 points 1 year ago

Hayes 2400 baud external modem with the red leds. Technically it was my dad's but I had procomm plus on a floppy and would sneak over and use it while he was at work.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I was late to the internet party, and got a pre-owned 33.6k. I don't remember the brand, but I still have it stashed somewhere, just for the nostalgia. Had it in my desk drawer to muffle the sound a bit. I figured out later I could turn that off. But I needed the sound to hear if I got a successful connection. Since my mother was sceptical about the phone line being blocked, I was not allowed to use a modem at home initially. So I used it in the night, to avoid detection. I had planned to just use it for essential surfing and patch downloads for games. But the addiction was too severe. After one month had passed, I figured out the phone bill would not go unnoticed, so I had to confess. So we agreed that I could use it after ten in the evening, and I would pay the usage part of the phone bill. I think it was close to $100 a month usually. And that was even if I had free fast internet where I studied... I never have paid so much for internet after that.

It was probably rocket fuel for a really bad sleeping habit (or complete lack of sleep), but I would not trade those years of late night chatting, surfing, mud and usenet for anything.

Later before I moved out, I got a 56k internal modem. But it was so unstable at max speed, I just ran it at 33.6k.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

2400 baud modem in an Altima 286 luggable (CGA LCD monochrome screen) in 1990. Hello CompuServe! And dialing into the Sun SPARCservers at work (oh yeah, remote working, 1993). Then used a USR 56k modem with a Sun SPARCstation 20 to connect to my ISP. The SS20 served as the firewall/router/DHCP server for my home LAN, which quickly grew to include NeXT, Sun and SGI workstations as companies cast them off to save money with the advent of the Intel/MS hegemony. That setup is still down in the computing cave, should the fiber-optic-cable-eating viruses grown in some corporate arcology ever be unleashed and we are back to copper POTS again...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Nothing very exotic: USRobotics 14.4

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Commodore 300 baud

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Acoustic-coupling modem for a TI 99/4a. 300 baud?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Apple Personal Modem 300/1200 on my Apple IIgs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

A thoroughly obsolete 1200bps Racal-Vadic thing that didn't do the Hayes command set. Its command set was sufficiently different to AT that I couldn't configure my terminal program to control it, so I'd pick up the phone, dial whichever BBS I wanted to call, wait for the beep, push the connect button on the modem's front panel, and put down the phone.

I think it was sufficiently obsolete that the BBSes I called would have had 9600bps or 14.4kbps modems by then.

Found the manual! https://usermanual.wiki/m/e841e449995c65b1eb3d261c6cec7d97d5b42039de6114e9fed37628782b868a.pdf

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

14.4k. Then 28.8k. Then 56k. Then T1 from my local computer group, and finally cable... fiber is coming this year.

I'm going to serve 2600.network over fiber. Somehow I wound up at the beginning.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Atari SX212 modem. 1200 bps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had the VicModem, but don’t recall how fast it was. It was often take. From me as a form of punishment. I’d say it was in the locked drawer more often than connected to the computer.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Around 1991 I spent $300 of money saved to buy a 14.4 modem. I can’t remember the brand. But of course the speed upgrades kept coming and I kept buying until DSL arrived. What a fun time those early years were.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

28.8k, can't remember the brand. 33.6 later on, and then finally a 56k, such a big upgrade!

Then I got 4/7/20/1000 broadband.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

2400 on a 386SX IIRC, I was late to the game. I started connecting when I moved to Coherent OS from DOS. I used kermit to dial into work. Work would then call back so I would avoid any charges:)

They had USENET on a SUNOS plus I could download source for items I wanted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Applied Engineering DataLink 1200 baud for my //e, purchased at their office in Addison.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

"Zoltrix" 14.4k internal here!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I wish I could remember but I know we were quite late adopters so it would have been reasonably fast. My family first got a modem because my brother was stuck at home with a long term illness so he was tutored remotely over telnet for a while.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Unsure, some sort of 14.4kbps PCI modem that was very outdated when I started using it in my youth. We had broadband, but it was only for one machine and I was only allowed to use some random free ISP (NetZero maybe?) to keep my time on the internet limited or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't really remember before broadband. I just have to read about the concept and buy slower, louder internet whenever I have the money. Haha.

(Actually, I think coding my own could be a pretty neat project)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A 14.4k from Hayes. It's what came with my IBM Aptiva. They barely mentioned modem functionality, it was to be used to send and receive faxes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hayes or "Hayes-compatible?" 😂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Don't remember any other details about the modem other than the speed (56k). Also, that it was significantly cheaper to dial-up during the night. I guess that could be the reason why I grew up as a night owl. 😅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

1989: Radio Shack Direct-Connect Modem DCM-6 (300 baud, no autodial)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know the model, but it was at&t, and it had its own ip that fucked my ip forwarding for years. So annoying.

I think we upgraded our plan once and it was 7mbs/s for 30 dollars by the time we cancelled. We got with another company for literally 3 times the speed for 15 dollars more a month.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My first own modem was a US Robotics Sportster Winmodem 28.8Kbps. It did have fax capabilities. But the first modem I used I think it was a Accura modem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My first modem was 110 baud acoustic coupler modem that I got from military surplus. I couldn't afford the modem Commodore sold for the VIC-20, so I figured out how to wire this thing in.

I didn't really do all that much with it, because not too much later I got a better job so upgraded to a Laser whatever clone of the Apple//c and a 1200 baud modem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Commodore 1670 at 1200 baud. Good times were had.

load more comments
view more: next ›