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Social media seems to be laughing its ass off about this tragedy, is it because the folks at burning man are perceived as frivolous hippies or something? Everyone I’ve ever met who was a regular burning man attendee has been a solid human being with strong morals, personally and financially responsible, a career. Upstanding members of society for sure. I guess all some people know is the sensationalized drugs and sex. A person died. This is a tragedy for an event that brings positivity into the world. Kind of annoyed.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

It used to be about spirituality and the rest including hard drugs, alcohol, and social media bringing in that crowd has ruined it permanently.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (10 children)

A person died. This is a tragedy for an event that brings positivity into the world. Kind of annoyed.

They could take all the money it costs them and bring a whole lot more positivity into the world but instead choose sex drugs and rock'n'roll in the middle of the desert. If you want to see tragedies these people could prevent just go spend some time in the poorest parts of the city you live in.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Would a resort in the Virgin Islands be more respectable? Sorry their vacation doesn't look like yours.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Maybe also because there were protesters blockading the road towards it because of climate change and festival goers were furious about it, so this is kinda ironic

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only people who go to that dumb crap in the first place are wealthy whites, the poor and working class don't have all the money and time in the world to spend $1000's of dollars on hard drugs and time off work and traveling half way across the country to attend some "hippy" festival that hasn't actually had hippies at it since the 12th Century BC

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why I'm happy when people aren't able to make it to Cons and Ren Fairs. Bunch of losers with more money than me spending on things I don't care about.

How dare they. I hope anyone who spends money to have fun has a bad time instead.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

In defense of Ren fairs, the best part of them is the camping, and that's as cheap as you want it to be.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

More just schadenfreude, I expect, since Burning Man has long seemed dumb and idiotic to many. So something dumb and idiotic like this happening to them feels appropriate.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Everyone I’ve ever met who was a regular burning man attendee has been a solid human being with strong morals, personally and financially responsible, a career.

I think of two people in my past when I think of Burning Man.

One being my ex who got in trouble for punching his ex girlfriend AT burning man. He had to go to court and she got a restraining order against him. There were also witnesses and he almost got kicked out of school for it. He should have been kicked out of school in my opinion.

Anyway. Him and his friends were super trashy. All people who went to Burning Man.

Then there is this girl I use to work with. She was nice. She was extremely pretty. 10/10 instagram model type, not even exaggerated. She was also super late to everything. I waited two hours for her and her friend to meet up at a cafe. That was the last time we hung out. She really came off as someone who gets away with shit just because she's considered hot.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Because we live in a society devoid of empathy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck your burn!

It’s not a tragedy, it’s life on the playa. Every participant knows this. The back of the ticket states that you could die out there. Part of it is survival. Radical self reliance.

These aren’t opinions, these are facts. Radical self reliance is one of the 10 principals of burning man.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hating burners is a perpetual pastime. I’ve never understood it. If you don’t want to go, don’t go. Folks form their own weird ideas about what Burning Man “means” and then bat down that straw man with misperceptions about what actually happens there. If you’ve never been: just STFU.

As a many time attendee, I’m concerned for the safety of everyone out there.

However I am also hoping that this might help lead to smaller events in the future. When I began attending, it was 12-15k people. It grew over time until it was 50k people and that really felt too big. Crazy crowds. Unsafe density of people whizzing around by night. And a greater feeling of anonymity / being able to disappear into the crowd definitely led to more irresponsible and shifty behavior by some. Once upon a time it was considered really bad behavior to just stop and piss on the ground but as the festival grew things like that became commonplace and fighting back against them was futile.

Now the festival is 70k people and I’ve stayed away for years over that. It would be great to get it under 50k again. I keep hearing about things like a full day wait during exodus and thinking maybe this will finally cause fewer people to return but it keeps not working. This probably won’t help either.

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