The DNC being in favor of genocide steered muslim voters to want to burn this whole place down.

The muslim vote and Gaza protest votes combined isn't what caused democrats to lose and they didn't want to "burn this whole place down" as you put it, Democrats lost because of their shitty campaign, saying nothing about progressive politics or what people wanted to hear, ontop of all the Gaza stuff, and has the likes of Bill Clinton campaigning for them. Don't blame muslims for the Democrats shitty-ass campaign.

Opposing fascism should be the default American stance, we’re just riddled with cancer/capitalism

And it's crazy, because, as someone who grew up in the 90s/00s, it always was. My public education did not shy away from shitting on Nazis and explaining the dangers of fascism. They started teaching that shit in elementary school.

The brain rot that has set-in over the past two decades or so has just been mind boggling and insane to watch.

I'm saying that this is the end goal the right wing, particularly the general Republican party and the Christian right in particular have been working towards since Nixon. The southern strategy, combined with the oligarchs dominating the party.

Democrats have never had a good plan to oppose that, and still don't.

Even if Kamala had won, which was never likely, it would have been someone, at some point in the next fifty years because the first Trump term stacked the supreme court, and the party pushed hard to put decisive cases up.

There's no way the halfassed efforts that democrats have been using my entire lifetime would have prevented an eventual lock on Congress and the presidency.

Mind you, I'm fairly convinced that had kamala won, there was a plan in the works for an outright attack. Not a genuine right wing revolution scale attack, but a disruptive series of attacks on the power grid and infrastructure to sow chaos and strengthen the militarization of the police even more, get people used to marshal law, etc. But that's impossible to prove, and unsourceable.

In a roundabout way, any democrat winning would have had exactly as much effect on their long term plans. They've been working at this, laying multiple options down so that as soon as opportunity rose, they could strike in one way or another.

Voting can't fix that. Voting democrat can't fix that for sure. There is no viable alternative party to oppose it, and there's no time to build one, despite the feeble bullshit being tried to rebuild the democrat establishment. You can't take a party that gives lip service to the populace, but works to maintain the status quo of corporate interests on average, and turn it into a serious engine of change.

We're past the point of waiting four years and hoping. We were past that when Biden eked out a win. But nobody took that respite to even try and shift things.

I think they are linked. Democracy can only work and thrive with an educated and/or informed population who is willing and able to have public and civil discourse. The fact that the political climate is the way it is now, so divided and only engaging to act on petty revenges, allows for fascism to take root. We saw this in Germany prior to the second World War. When NSDAP began beating people up in the street who opposed their ideology, with little repercussions for such behavior, led to the beer hall putsch, and eventually the rise of Herr Hitler. I can see parallels with the modern day political climate of America. The issue is that we voted them into the white house; I think that might even be more jarring than them being in there itself. Democratically voting a fascist in power is a tell tale sign that our democracy is not working.

Why are people still organizing outside building the oligarchs never go to? No wonder people don't show up, it doesn't work. Perhaps if we organized outside gated communities or billionaires mansions, occupy the oligarchs instead of some sidewalk.

Yeah, well, they've done it, 95 million Americans didn't vote. Now what?

Are we gonna point the finger at them, lay the blame at their feet, and feel superior because WE VOTED, while the oligarchs and fascists loot our treasury and put our minority and LGBTQ+ brothers and sisters you seem to care so much about in camps? Or are we gonna go and fight the good fight like the people out in LA yesterday?