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Tesla’s registrations in France dropped 63% in January, their lowest since August 2022, far outpacing the broader total EV sales' 0.5% decline.

Tesla registrations across EU countries fell 13% last year, with Germany accounting for much of the decline.

Sales in Germany, Tesla’s biggest European market, also fell 41% last year due to an aging lineup, competition, and subsidy cuts.

CEO Elon Musk’s political involvement, including support for Germany’s far-right party, may be affecting demand.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

The EU has so many much better EV makers it is crazy. Siemens, Altsom, CAF or Talgo are superior in every way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

Give me a break.

Hate on Musk all you're pleased, I'll join you. But I can't deny how much better tesla was vs every other brand I've test driven (Ford, Kia, Polestar mg etc). Their software is unmatched unfortunately. Until we get another brand do this shit right, tesla will be the top car. EV is only as good as its software. Most other brands are half a decade behind.

Again, if you have experience and disagree? I'm happy to discuss! I'd love to hear about your experience with brands I haven't tested. But 90% of comments here likely never driven Tesla and are just spewing bullshit because they dislike Musk. It's fine not to buy a car because of it, but trying to mental gymnastics into the car being bad makes people look like complete idiots.

I'm sure there will be smart asses here talking about quality control or software recalls, so what? Sell so many of anything and you'll have bad apples. You think other brands haven't got those?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Are you expecting someone to say "I never heard of those" so you can share some gem of niche industry knowledge with us?

Sigh. Alright. "I never heard of those".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

Those are all train manufacturers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago

Oh, right, so we are all very dumb for not recognizing that and also op is very enlightened because he has already arrived at the conclusion that public transport is the only valid form of transportation while the rest of us still thinks that electrically driven automobiles (*snort*) might be anything of value.

Alright, imma head over to the designated corner of shame, see you guys over there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 33 minutes ago

Hint: None of those companies make electric vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Any day now, Elon Musk’s failures will catch up with him and then we can dance on his grave of failure.

Stupid nerd who never accomplished anything!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

Couldn't happen to a "better" man

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

Sadly, he's already tapped the US Treasury like a Keg.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I work in tech in Germany. My coworkers and I are the ideal Tesla customers. Nobody I know would consider buying a Nazi car.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 hours ago (10 children)

Call it a swasticar, Elmo hates it.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Looks like Elon Twittered Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

He did not see that coming

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 hours ago (10 children)

The people who buy electric vehicles are left-leaning people who believe in climate change. If I were a major Tesla shareholder I'd be howling to have Musk ejected while the company still has a chance to retain some goodwill.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 hours ago (9 children)

Why? Shareholders do not care about the health of the company so long as its stock price is high. And Teslas stock price is not based on any fundamental principle of investing.

Their market cap, or the total value of all their shares, is currently worth more than the next 30 largest auto manufacturers COMBINED.

Let me put it this way: Every single car sold in the United States this year could be made by Tesla and they still wouldn’t even be close to being worth what they are right now based on company fundamentals. Thats how insane this is. Shareholders of the company couldn’t be happier and yet their company is declining in sales and killing off its customer base. Absolutely insane.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 hours ago

That sounds like a bubble that needs a pin 📌

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

The product isn’t the cars. It’s all the data he’s vacuuming up from the rubes who keep buying them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

I'm sure Tesla gathers data, but pretending that a $50,000 car isn't the actual product is pretty silly.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Whenever I see a Tesla, I immediately think of those fucking neo-Nazis and his weekly chats with the bastard Vlad.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 12 hours ago

Not one more Tesla should be sold in any democratic country.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

I don't understand how the stock is STILL so high

[–] [email protected] 46 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

One of the few conspiracies I actually subscribe to is that there is no legitimate stock market anymore, it is 100% under price control. Wins and losses - such as they are - are being determined by huge banks and hedge funds using AI algorithms, dark pools and phantom shares to maintain an iron grip. I got started down this path when I read Michael Lewis' book Flash Boys, which, like this video was made over 10 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know that there's any sort of conspiracy, but it's definitely true that a huge part of the market is in "dumb money" -- index funds that just buy every stock weighted by market cap, and thus exert no influence on what the companies actually do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

insert I'm doing my part.jpg

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

My 3%-match 401k: ididntdoshit.jpeg

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[–] [email protected] 172 points 16 hours ago (19 children)

Not many people want to be seen in a nazi car. Between that and twitter, the babyllionaire douche is really demonstrating his genius.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You couldn’t get me to drive a Tesla even if you paid me for it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago

I might be tempted to as long as the destination was "into a lake".

Edit: as soon as I wrote that, I realized: I don't wanna pollute a lake so nevermind.

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