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Image alt text: An image of Steam's top 10 best-selling games at the time of posting, three of which are marked as "prepurchase"

I checked the Steam stats and noticed that in the top 10 best selling games by revenue, there's three games that aren't even out yet. If we ignore the Steam Deck and f2p games, it's three out of four games. They have also been in the top 100 for 4, 6, and 8 weeks respectively, so people just keep on buying them. I would love to know why people keep doing this, as the idea of pre-ordering is that there is a physical copy of a game available for you on release, but this is not a concern with digital items. So after so many games lately being utterly broken on release, why do people not wait until launch reviews to buy the game? If you touch a hot stove and get burned multiple times, when does one learn?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago

Never preorder any game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Never. There's no point, it's not like there are a limited amount of copies that I'll miss out on if I don't reserve mine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

Only indie games, because I like to support indie developers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

The reason people do it is poor impulse control for the dopamine hit from buying something they want. I'm pretty sure anyone claiming another reason isn't being honest with themselves or others.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No.

Especially the big studio games.

They almost always go on sale 3-6 months past release, and they’ve been patched at least once.

You get a better, cheaper game.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

I can think of 2 legitimate reasons for doing this - either putting the money down now so you don't have to come up with it later, or so you can preload it and have it available right at release.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would have pre-ordered Civ7, but then they announced it has Denuvo so now instead of pre-ordering I'm just not going to buy it at all.

Fuck denuvo and fuck corporations who think their customers should just bend over and accept whatever bullshit they offer for the "privilege" of playing their game.

There is so much good indie gaming content these days, we don't need these abusive mega-corp games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

When starfield released and tried this "early access for extra cash" nonsense, the game was cracked before the regular release was even available.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Last game i pre-ordered was fallout 4 hahahaha. So no i don't pre-order anymore. I even waited for a discount on baldur's gate 3 before buying it, that was a feat of it's own.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I pre-ordered No Man's Sky and that was the first and last time I pre-ordered anything.

Beyond the painful lesson, pre-ordering is just a large risk that you're going to get a crap game - which is doubly unpleasant because you've basically paid good money to buy yourself a feeling of frustration and the experience of having been scammed - and all that you gain from pre-ordering a digital game is at best being able to play the exact same game a few minutes or maybe hours earlier than if you bought it on day 1, which is a "gain" not worth taking on that risk.

This is even more so in this day and age of totally overhyped bullshit and industry reviews being either pretty much paid for or done against beta versions hence not mentioning software problems such as bugs and slowness.

In fact I would even advise against buying a game on the first week or month for similar reasons - you want to reduce the risk of wasting your money and of frustration, by waiting for others to have played it and user reviews to come out and by buying later you'll probably going to end up with a better version of the game because the worst post-release bugs will have started being patched.

You could say that from the point of view of the buyer, it doesn't make business sense to pre-ordered a digital good for which there is no scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Not anymore. Mostly for 3 main reasons.

  • The only reason I'd ever preorder something now is if there's a significant risk of stock running out quickly. That's not a thing with digital games, ask there's no need to consider it.

  • I've been burned far too many times by getting shitty games on day one, after having fallen for all the fake hype, deceptive marketing, sophisticated astroturfing, and paid-for reviews. Now, as a rule, I'll wait for about 2-4 weeks at least to see what the community sentiment is before I buy something.

  • And finally, games are fuck all expensive now. 70 dollars is already a bridge too far for many of the bug-riddled, unfinished slop big corpos push out these days. And then there's "speculation" that RockStar will price GTA6 at a 100 dollars, giving all the publishers out there the precedent to do the same with their own titles. I'll just take my time and wait for them to go on sale for at least 50% off before I consider getting something. (P.S. I say speculation, but I'm almost entirely convinced that it's a deliberate industry psyop to get people primed for this insane price tag and reduce the sticker shock-induced backlash)

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago

Never preorder.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Never. Apart from the pre-order bonuses that I refuse to accept there's really no reason to. The game's still there after I have seen the reviews. I have fast internet and a fast SSD, so even if I could pre-download that would realistically only save me an hour or something even for the largest games.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

No. I'm doing the opposite.

I'm currently playing PS4 games I have never played before.

You get them on ebay for like $10.

Can't wait to play PS5 games in 5 years... 🙃

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Can't wait to play PS5 games in 5 years...

All six of them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Sounds like you should join us over on [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I stopped pre-ordering games long ago. THhe last 3 I ever pre-ordered were Shenmue 3, No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk 2077. The all had a disastrous launch to some degree, and I said never again. I also pre-ordered Vampire: The Masquerade 2, but I cancelled it years ago. The last physical game I bought was Metal Gear Solid V, and it was a DVD with a fucking Steam installer inside.

Never again.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

As a rule, no, but I'll make some rare exceptions.

It has to be a small studio, I have to be pretty sure I'll like their next game, and I have to have enjoyed their past game enough that it's worth throwing them a few extra bucks.

For instance, I'm going to pre-order Slay the Spire 2.

  • Mega Crit is an indie studio.

  • I thought StS1 was exquisite, so I'm optimistic about a sequel from the same people.

  • I playes StS1 for hundreds of hours, so even if the sequel is a whiff, I'd have got my money's worth from them.

Similar goes for The Haunted Chocolatier, since I played the heck out of Stardew Valley.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't think digital pre-orders even include banking functionality. I wouldn't know because I lack the nerd cred of ever pre-ordering a game

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only Capcom games. Their demos give you a pretty good idea of what the fully game is going to be and are usually even improved upon. So preordering is mostly a safe bet. Plus you get some early access goodies (which you can also get after release for some extra shmeckles).

Capcom feels like one of the only multiplatform devs that are actually still making games for gamers not for shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I agree with this take. MH Wilds will be my first prepurchase since RE4. The RE4 demo blew my mind and the Wilds beta had me hooked.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Never. I only rarely buy a game within a year of release. Too fucking many good cheap or free games to justify paying msrp before it even gets reviews.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These days? No.

I used to when I had very crappy internet speeds, but these days I have a gigabit connection - and I swear the decryption process takes longer than it is to just download the game right after release in an unencrypted state.

And even back then I was very picky on pre-orders. I honestly couldn't even tell you what was the last one I pre-ordered.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

oh man I forgot about this. preload used to be such a big selling point but now it only takes a few minutes to download most games.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

If there is a game that i'll definitely buy on launch and there is some real benefit for pre ordering, i might do it. But even then i'll wait for the last few hours and "pre-order" then. If there is no benefit for me, why should i tell the company "i dont care about quality of your game, i'll pay anyway". Because that is how the ones making decisions will see pre order.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Nope, not a single reason to do so.

Preorder bonuses are worthless and are always available as dlc later on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Rarely. I don't think I ever have two years in a row.

Usually only if I'm very sure it's a game I will get a lot of playtime out of due to past titles. For instance, I did pre-order Civ 7 because prior Civs have been the best hours-enjoyed-per-dollar investments I've ever made. No exaggeration, even accounting for DLCs I bought at full price.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Hissssss 🐍

Don't preorder, what the hell are you people thinking?!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I very rarely ever did. And when I did I made sure I trusted the studio and knew enough. But even with this preparation I was burned most of the time preordering. 

Nowadays I notice a game I like and I wait for 1-3 years, then pick it up DRM free, with all the extensions and fully patched for oftentimes 15€ or so.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I almost never preorder any game I'm not 100% sure I'll play no matter what. Sometimes I'll do it with online games in 90% sure on bc my internet is horrible and I like being able to get started on the download asap

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Absolutely no reason to, you pay more for a buggier version. I generally wait until there's a good sale.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Never because I'm cheap and also I don't want to pay a premium for a buggy unoptimized experience. Even when I had the game pass trial I didn't play games day 1, since games needed several patches to be acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

no i have fast internet so if i do buy a massive bloated game i can wait 20 minutes before playing it, or buy it the day of then remote download with the steam mobile app

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Last game I pre-ordered was Cyberpunk 2077. Yeah, it's a fun and really good now but when it released it was basically unplayable until Phantom Liberty was released. I had already said I would never pre-order a game and I made an exception for CDPR and got Cyberpunk, and I was immediately burned. For real-sies this time, no more exceptions. I will never pre-order another game until the day that I die.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Not counting Kickstarter projects, which I rarely back anymore, no. I'll wait for reviews and probably a sale.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only games I'm super confident I'll love. Never got screwed over.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Used to be I could preload games I prepurchase and would absolutely be doing that still, but that's pretty much never on offer anymore so I don't prepurchase even games I'm 100% certain I'll be getting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I do preorder digital games but not just anything I’m excited about. It has to come from a single dev or small dev team that I specifically want to support, and help fund their progress. In this example, I’d preorder Haunted Chocolatier by ConceredApe (dev behind Stardew Valley).

OR, if the game is made by studio with a stellar track record or an absolutely phenomenal game. These more rare but their are a few. These also need to treat their dev team and customers well. No crunch. No shady micro-transactions.

For example, Hades 2 is something I would consider preordering. The next game by Larian Studios might also be on that list.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Only if it's a game I'm going to play regardless. I pre ordered FH4 and FH5 and I easily have 2k+ hours in both of those games.

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