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I posted this question because I once saw a tweet that said something like:

"If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank"

What is your opinion on this? Do you agree with them?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Lmao yeah uBlock Origin reks the internet fr. After chromium shifts to manifest v3, I'm switching to librewolf and uBlock to retain the same experience I've been having

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am currently using LibreWolf (I am assuming that's what you meant by librefox), and aside from getting used to a non-chromium-based browser (which is almost all of them nowadays), it's really fine.

Besides, why wait to try it out? Get used to it before you have to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ah yes LibreWolf my bad I'll edit the og comment. Yes I do use it side by side, by switching I meant solely using that then

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

For the longest time I use:

  • for blocking ads: uBlock Origin, Disconnect, Privacy Badger, Ghostery
  • for search: DuckDuckGo
  • mobile ads blocking: AdGuard

I donate or buy merch from creators directly. Many of them voiced that majority of the revenue doesn't come from ads, but from sponsorships and direct donations/purchases.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

@tsukii I don't use adblocker but I use Safing's Portmaster and Vivaldi Browser with built-in ad-and-tracker-blocker enabled plus uBlock Origin - using plus Librewolf as well.


Hope that helps πŸ₯°

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use AdBlock because I don't want to sacrifice 70% of my viewport to obxonious and intrusive targetted ads. I never click on ads anyway.

As Louis Rossmann said, supporting a creator directly via patreon Kofi or other means has way more impact than watching ads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

On my phone I use personalDNSfilter to block most ads on Android, as well as the Mull browser with the Ublock Origin plugin added. I have always enabled ad block for as long as I can remember being annoyed by ads and I have no plans to stop anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I use ublock origin. I don't like the ad model and many ads on the web are privacy invasive. I'm not averse paying for content (something I'm doing for some of it) but I won't watch ads to fund creators.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ever since my Unifi Dream Machine Pro router was updated with VPN and pihole functionality, I haven't needed to use any adblocking. I can route all my traffic through my home network and it blocks ads in every context, including in apps.

As might be obvious, I completely disagree with the tweet. I hate ads. They're predatory and abusive and they ruin the internet. Anybody who is willing to be responsible with ads has a donate/subscribe option anyway. The auto play video people with dark patterns etc. need to be obliterated. But I probably hate them even less than I hate sites like the New York Times, which charge a subscription fee and then fill their site and apps with ads anyway. Fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, I do. And I do since I don't want to watch ads and being interrupted with the video. I also have a sponsorblock extention. I use those since ads are always the same. I know what NordVPN is and I won't sign up for that thing. Also, ad revenue on YouTube is near zero for creators but fir YouTuve itself I imagine it's pretty huge. So I'm bit damaging my creators. If I want to support them, I'd rather sign up for Patreon.

[–] Hexarei 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I use uBlock Origin on individual devices and a Pi-Hole on a network level.

My reasoning:

  1. As a web developer, everything I make and publish is either for fun or for profit. The things I create for fun, I don't expect to make money or even be financially sustainable. If I did, they would be things I create for profit. If I create something for fun, I try to either leverage a free hosting service or host it myself, to avoid outrageous costs. If I create something for profit, I tend to use a simple subscription model. If someone wants to use something I've created for profit, they can pay me for it. I would love to throw money at the sites I use on a regular basis to help sustain them. I do so with a YouTube Premium subscription, paid subscriptions to apps that I use, Github sponsorships, and several Patreon memberships.

As such, by using an ad blocker, I'm not expecting anything of others that I wouldn't do, myself.

  1. As someone with both ADHD and autism, I will never require someone to pay me using their attention. Some of us have a limited supply of that, and have to ration it as-is.

  2. I have never once seen an ad on a website, banner or otherwise, and thought "Wow, I should buy that."

  3. They are a waste of my screen space, CPU cycles, network bandwidth, patience, attention, and time.

  4. I don't want to be tracked.

  5. They often reduce performance of the content they are meant to compliment and support, which will make me less likely to stick around. A while back, I encountered some ads on a web game was built using WebGL. Any time ads would load, there was a half-second pause in the game, even on my rather substantially-spec'd PC (Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB DDR4-3600, GTX 3080).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

uBlock Origin or the built-in adblocker, depending on the browser I use. On iOS I use AdGuard.

I treat adblockers the same as an antivirus at this point, there have been multiple times that I've seen ads for scams and malware, so I save myself the headache and use an adblocker. I believe it was Linus from Linus Tech Tips who said adblocking YouTube ads is piracy, if so then call me a filthy pirate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If I don't block ads, then I'm stealing from the advertiser who's paying per impression to someone who isn't interested in their crap.

If the ad makes noise, moves around the screen, crashes my browser, or otherwise actively interferes with my ability to obtain the information I was looking for, It'll leave me with such a negative impression that I won't buy anything from that brand, now or ever -- or from the creator who allowed them to break an otherwise good website.

So really, by blocking ads, I'm defending the good reputation of both creators and their sponsors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Probably close to 20 years ago at this point, when visiting the official forums for a game I loved, my computer was infected by malware delivered by a malicious ad. This was not some seedy part of the internet, but a website hosted by a major game publisher whose product I enjoyed.

Try as I might, I could not revert the damage caused by the virus, so the only recourse I had was to just blank slate wipe it clean and start over.

Today, I acknowledge that most websites more tightly control the ads they host, but the trust is forever broken. As soon as the option became available to me, I installed the best adblocker I could find and never looked back. No exceptions.

The truth is that every ad is malicious, to small degrees. They want to commodify your eyeballs and take up space in your mind. They're trying to create a need where one does not exist, and will use whatever tactic they can to try to part you from your hard-earned money. They're a barrier between you and the content you want to enjoyβ€”in many cases content that you paid to enjoy.

Even if it's in the name of supporting a website/service I enjoy, I can't confidently turn off my ad blocker anymore. It only takes one malicious ad to sneak through the cracks to cause disaster.

There has got to be a better way of running an online business without having to completely fill the space with ads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I have been using adblockers for more than 20 years, probably read a post about it on Slashdot and I think userfriendly.org could have mentioned it.

A site added big blinking ads left, right and top and that pissed me off, I installed AdBlocker on FF and never looked back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use adguard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank

This sounds a lot like not tipping being a bad thing.

Ads and tipping denigrate my daily experience. So I'm not going to suffer either.

Blocking ads is also just more secure as it's a vector for so many exploits.

In conclusion, I don't agree with them at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fuck ads. They always fuck me when I try to make money online. If the only way I'm allowed to make money is with "a real job" then they should "get a real job" too. Fuck 'em.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ads can deliver viruses, many ads are animated or have sound, or both. If every ad were static and safe, I wouldn't mind so much... but alas, that's not a thing. So AdBlock it is!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Wanna know why I use ublock origin eveywhere? If you're brave (and dumb) go to wordhippo.com with a "naked" browser (no adblock and default privacy settings). Then come back and talk to me when you've removed all the malware from your system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I turn it off on YouTube after I saw they rolled out the content blocking expedient for ad block users. But for everything else I leave it on, except twitch because the twitch community already get shafted by the 50/50 split.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Yes, because most sites are completely unreadable without it. I also don't want to be loading megabytes of garbage with all the ads, trackers, and whatever other shit people stick on commercial websites nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

I don't, because I know that ads are part of free content "agreement"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@tsukii I don't, because TROMJARO do everything fir me.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

i do not use adblock on content creation sites like youtube

its a small effort for what i assume is a small bit of support for the content im watching

i just never had an issue with ads, theyre unobtrusive and i can just do something else while theyre playing

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

I do everything under the sun pretty much. Ublock origin, NoScript, chameleon extensions on Librewolf (and others). I β€œsubscribe” to YouTube channels via rss feeds. Open up the newsboat feed reader from my terminal and an extension called β€œAlter” redirects me to an invidious instance. NoScript blocks everything pretty much as I just need the url. Then I use yt-dlp with the sponsorblock flag.

I only visit YouTube when I have a bunch of new β€œsubs” that I found through word of mouth (reading blogs, HN, Mastodon, Lemmy, etc). I could just use invidious rss feeds, but if the instance goes down I would have to start all over again. There are other ways of achieving this same effect, but this is how I choose to consume yt now.

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