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[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I just received mine a few days ago!

I am excited to have it and start using it but I would also caution people interested in it. It is currently a little rough around the edges software wise but I'm optimistic it will continue to improve with time.

I am personally glad I opted to support this project and while I don't think I'll be able to contribute to code I do hope to at least provide beneficial feedback and end user diagnostics.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I also got mine recently! Definitely agree with the rough around the edges part. This is definitely an artisanal, hand-rolled, music player. It... doesn't seem very durable. Mine rattles when I move it...

I bought it to support open source and because I'm hoping it'll last a long time. (As long as I don't move it too much.)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm optimistic it will continue to improve with time.

In my experience there are few crowdsourced products that continue to be significantly developed after the initial sales have finished unless they are astoundingly well-reviewed to continue selling.

Pebble was one of the few exceptions for one that I funded. Even then, once the Apple Watch came out they got gobbled up by (garmin) and all development on the originals died.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I don't necessarily expect it to be supported indefinitely but they only just got the hardware into backers hands and are now taking in a lot of feedback so I don't think it unreasonable to expect some reasonable improvements in the shorter term.

Time will tell though. Personally I'd be quite happy with it after some bug fixes and a few small features. And if worse comes to worse it will become a personal coding project for myself.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For the more adventurous, Tangara’s ESP32 firmware is written in C++ using the ESP-IDF framework. ... Tangara’s battery is a standard LiPo pouch cell with a 3-pin JST connector. ... Active battery life depends on use case (typically >20 hours)

Sorry, thanks but not thanks. Make it use a swappable 18650 and run Rockbox. Also it costs $250 which might have been ok in the early 2000s but is outlandish today. Finally it's Crowdsupply, which is not a scam but is a pain to deal with. And the battery drain is a lot too. Sandisk players were getting 10+ hours on an AAA cell in 2005 or so. This is just not an interesting product and the makers should have spent a few evenings on the Rockbox forums before starting the project.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Does anyone here remember Rockbox? I still have my old Sansa player running it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I have my iPod 5th gen running on RockBox. IMO it's even better than the stock firmware because it can play flacs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And ogg and m4a and opus and so many more. I have an ipod 6th gen runnung rockbox. Its great. If the harddrive dies I'll replace it with sd-cards and still keep uaing it.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago

$271,285 raised of $10,000 goal. That's some pretty good odds of success

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Darmok and Jalad, at Tangara?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

shaka, when the walls fell

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

For the people that don't want to click through to find the code:

https://codeberg.org/cool-tech-zone/-/projects/12798

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

I'd rather see a project that brings back legacy Zunes - completely jailbreaks or ROMhacks the Zune software. The hardware was badass and you could easily retrofit SSDs into them. The software needs some sprucing up though.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I bought one. Unfortunately, it still doesn’t work well with large music libraries. The database building step takes several hours, with no progress indicator, and once it’s done, the scroll wheel does not accelerate, meaning that scrolling through a long list of artists/albums will take a long time. Hopefully these will be remedied in a future firmware.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit......that seems like day 0 issues. By that I mean issues to address before mass production. Certainly before any customer recieves their product.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

To be fair, the Fiio MP3 player I bought in the late 2010s also didn’t have acceleration while scrolling, and never got it in firmware upgrades. I suspect that 80% of the market might only carry small music collections with them, and the other 20% may be regarded as not worth bothering with (except by Rockbox and the original Apple iPod)

Not having a progress indicator on the exceedingly long database building application, though, is a bit harder to excuse.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

This would be cool to load up with 10s of thousands of songs and to just leave tethered to your home HiFi system

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Easier and cheaper to flash mod a Gen5/Gen7 iPod and put Rockbox on it. Looks better too.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago

Yes, but we desperately need a thriving ecosystem of open source devices. With the way electronics are going - for example, being forced to agree to a new license agreement before being able to use a device I already purchased, and the agreement forces arbitration for disputes? We need more people working on enshittification-proof devices.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

While I do do electronics, I'm not amazing at it, but, I always wonder how the UIs are so clunky and slow on a processor that outpaces a Pentium 1 ,which would run Windows 95..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Can we get an Open-Hardware CD-ROM/Optical-disk reader for our PCs ?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

ouuuu that looks rly cool! Right in the vein of Pine64.

I like that despite only supporting SBC for now, they are looking to expand the Bluetooth codec support with updates. I think LDAC might be a no-brainer here, since it's royalty free and the encoder is open iirc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Does it come with open source earbuds?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

No earbuds, player only.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Eh.

I'd rather have a touch screen. I don't want retro looks over functionality.

The dedicated digital music player scene is rough right now. A year ago I looked into getting one cuz my iPod finally died and I don't want to use my phone for music. I wanted touch screen and Android so I could download apps from the app store. It was surprisingly hard to find one. Ended up with a Chinese brand that works, but there's no support and the screen is real glass and broke already. I like being able to download whatever apps I want and there's a ton of storage space, but I'd really like some better options.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There are several good options made by Shanling, Fiio, Sony and Hiby amongst others that would meet your criteria. Not sure where you looked to suggest that the DAP scene is "rough".

Some options to consider:

Hiby R4 - https://store.hiby.com/products/hiby-r4

Hiby M300 - https://store.hiby.com/products/hiby-digital-m300

Fiio JM21 - https://www.fiio.com/jm21

Sony NW-A306 - https://electronics.sony.com/audio/walkman-digital-recorders/walkman-mp3-players/p/nwa306-b

Shanling M3 Ultra - https://en.shanling.com/product/424

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Glad to see its on crowd supply

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