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Salwan Momika, the Iraqi man who staged several Quran burnings in Sweden in 2023, was shot and killed in Sodertalje, near Stockholm.

His actions had sparked international outrage, riots, and diplomatic tensions. Swedish police confirmed a murder investigation is underway, and several arrests have been made.

Momika, who sought asylum in Sweden in 2018, faced charges of incitement to hatred, with a verdict scheduled for the day after his death.

His protests were permitted under free speech laws but led to legal action against him.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

He was a asshole, but he sound have been free and safe to be an asshole.

Fuck religion

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

raised anger and criticism in several Muslim nations

I don't think there are many non-Muslims who were onboard with this stupid shit either, to be fair. Besides the spittle-flecked gammon who were already bigots to begin with, of course.

The only Quran burning I'd support would be if Elon Musk did it as part of his whole white identitarian shtick. I'd send ISIS the airfare myself.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Fuck it, now I kind of want to burn a Quran or Bible for funsies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Toss in a torah to complete the Abrahamic trifecta and top it with dianetics because fuck scientology in particular.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

the man wanted to incite hatred, show him middlefinger by doing the opposite

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

How do we know he wanted that?

I see the post that says he was being charged with inciting hatred, but also says his act was protected under free speech.

I think it’s dumb to be burning books as the only people who are going to be pissed are the fundamentalists and they’re always pissed off anyway, but I respect his right to free expression.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago

so, momika has been in sweden a few years. he converted to christianity in his home country, started shouting loudly about freedom of speech there, got told to stop, then filed for asylum in sweden. once here he kept doing the same thing, which of course jeopardises his asylum claim. only he wasn't first. rasmus paludan has been burning qurans here for a while, always doing it in neighbourhoods with a majority muslim population. as a demonstration of the problem with religion, it's effective. once. but both of them did it for years, and the things they have been saying during their book burning made it clear that it was not actually about freedom of speech, but about hatred of muslims. not islam, muslims. and they were both in court for the crime of hets mot folkgrupp ("incitement of hatred against a population group"). they clearly overstepped the law of the country they were in.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What other possible reason would someone have to burn a book that is to some more important than their life. Either people dont care about it or become enraged. And just because you have right to do something doesnt mean you should. His actions have caused a lot of harm, also most likely his own death too.

For argument's sake, lets assume he had some positive reason for his actions. Has there been a single positive thing that has come from this? If you want to do good you need to think the consequences through and if you dont then you shouldnt do anything at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is such a bullshit take with some not so subtle apoligism and blame shifting.

If burning a book causes a lot of harm in any way besides burn damage, the burner is hardly to blame but something else is fundamentally wrong, and he tried to make that very obvious to everyone with his own life at risk.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

So how long have you sided with the Nazis and fundamentalist Christians?

Because now you're excusing their book burning.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

momika did it specifically to spark outrage among immigrants. don't do that.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Nah fuck that, If muslims cant handle it they should look the other way like they do when women are stoned to death for showing their hair.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

THEY CAN’T KILL US ALL

You'd be surprised how efficient and streamlined capital punishment is in the middle east. So they probably can. (Unless you're talking about outside the ME, then i doubt it)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Obviously I am not talking about the ME.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Then sorry. I thought so due to him being Iraqi, concern of him being deported and executed, and his reason for burning the Qur'ans originally.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Are you saying his killing was justified?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

No? He's saying it triggers plenty of Islamophobia. If you actually follow the logic, it sounds more like he's adding more arguments against this kind of killing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah tbh as a Muslim it’s pretty tiring and offensive to read all of that shit when most of us are just busy living our lives like everyone else. And we’re here on the supposedly progressive and liberal Lemmy…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Wait, are you suggesting that its a bad idea to generalize what a billion plus people living in vastly different places and situations believe? /s