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i sent this text to my family group chat (which includes my father). my dad is a poverty MAGA with a wild fantasy about how to better enjoy his retirement.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Almost everyone who isn't a violent fascist who actually want to exterminate all the others, is actually a progressive who have been convinced through propaganda that progressivism is cringe

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who uses / to separate bulleted points? I’ve seen 1. , 1.) , 1-, but never 1/.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You obviously were born after the use of paper had already died out. It was quite common in written bullet points. On,y with digital did that change to be more uniform.

Now this happened in a group chat, with someone talking about rising with their dad and discussing Twitter, so I’d hazard a guess that they too are after digital first.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

When did paper die out? Was it during the water wars of 2037 or the great snake plague of 2052?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Haha, I'd say about late 90s. I know I'm at the point where my printer is packed away and only gets resuscitation every 6 months or so. Holding a pen to write any more than a few words on a form feels odd.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And how did that go for you?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago

"When others do a foolish thing, you should tell them it is a foolish thing. They can still continue to do it, but at least the truth is where it needs to be." -Dukhat

His dad needed to be told.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i wouldn't normally be controversial in the family chat, but it was a rare opportunity to make a simple point. he probably hasn't seen it yet, but it spurred a great discussion among the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

That's good, it's always 50/50 whether stuff like this will actually land the way you hope it will.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If they gave everybody in the US in poverty 100k, it would cost $4,189,000,000,000.

The US GDP is $27,360,000,000,000.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How much tax revenue would we gain if we reinstated the corporate tax to the levels it used to be in the 40's and 50's? You know, when America was great? That tax rate was 52%>. Care to take a gander at what today's rate is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

We are losing tens or hundreds of billions of dollars thanks to tax policy incongruent with sanity.

Effective tax rate? Basically zero. Iirc the on-paper corporate tax rate is around 20%.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What's your definition of "poverty", citizen?

Or "everybody", for that matter.

Any age range, or are children & elders out?

Is citizenship required or merely present in the country at the moment this miracle occurs?

Perhaps baseline cognition is required? Or are the sleeping, the mentally challenged, the comatose, and MAGAts excluded?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Any working age person who makes under the federal minimum wage is in poverty. Children, the retired, and illegal immigrants don't count. Realistically anybody not making a living wage for a 40hr week is impoverished.

Hilariously, there are a great number of MAGA types that would be included in the people who would receive the $100k, but would vote against their own interests due to brain rot political talking points.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the following is a thread in six parts...

1/yesterday, while riding in the truck with dad, he suggested that he might get an account on Twitter and plead Mr Musk to give him $100k. i thought maybe he was joking, but this suggestion was in earnest. dad, you are very close to the solution....

2/1-tax the shit out of Musk. 2-apply that money to social programs which provide solutions to the basic needs of all Americans.

3/dear dad. you are right that Musk has enough money that $100k is a pittance to him. you are right that you have needs that deserve to be met.

4/you are wrong to imagine that capitalists will EVER give up their wealth willingly (even if you ask pretty please on Twitter).

5/you are wrong to think that you are the ONLY person who deserves to have their basic needs met.

6/welcome to "the struggle", dad. ♥️

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm sure the heart-sharer was more than happy to spread his wealth