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Okay, posting this here because it is literally called No Stupid Questions, but I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this.

I got a message today on Reddit saying I was permabanned . . . I had really good karma there, never received any notification that I had done anything wrong, and never had a post deleted. The message said to check my inbox for more details . . . but there were no details in my inbox. I tried to appeal, and it was just denied in a couple of hours. No explanation.

Anyone else experience this or know what other avenues I can take? I'm going to be honest here, I had made a lot of friends there. I suppose I could make a throwaway account to let them know where else they can find me, but I'm pretty bummed out.

For context: I kind of prided myself as being a "Ted Lasso of Reddit." I mostly just got on to give people pep talks in the beginner fitness and /toastme subreddits. I'm going to miss that a lot, and I kind of needed a community right now, even if it was an online one. But, hey, maybe that's just my sign to check out this place instead. I'll try to look at the bright side.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

I got a message on reddit that I had been auto-banned from a sub I had never even been to r/landlords, because I posted in a sub they didn't like, I forget if it was r/antiwork or r/latestagecapitalism or something like that. It's just a silly place now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

What you should do next is free yourself https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite Delete all your comments, give them nothing. Reddit doesn't deserve your post history. I was there since the beginning and same thing happened to me two years ago. No reason. Great comment history, never found out why. So I used this and deleted everything (it also backs it up for you to a file so you can still view your comments which can be useful).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Got banned over a star trek mod abusing his power

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes. Reddit is obsessed with banning and censorship to an unhealthy and stupid degree. As someone who thinks social media should be moderated, even I think they go way too far with it.

I’ve had to create a lot of alt accounts because I kept getting banned. I’m not right-wing, I don’t troll people and I don’t use slurs or violent words. You would THINK that would be enough, but no.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

Yes. Reddit is obsessed with banning and censorship to an unhealthy and stupid degree

Yup. Unfortunately Lemmy follows this example with some admins being absolute tools.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Consider it a nudge in the right direction.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The bans are AI driven, and the appeal responses are AI driven. You won't find an explanation for why you were banned, because there was no human behind the ban

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is what will end Reddit.

AI moderation and AI bans.

We're pretty much all here because of it. Reddit is actively driving their users to other platforms. Oh well.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They're probably tuning the type of engagement the ~~stockholders~~ admins demand. Anyone who doesn't fit the bill of circlejerking the hive mind gets the boot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Even the human mods won't tell you what rule you broke.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I'm here because reddit is now a useless NFT cash grab and 80% of reddit mods are authoritarian pieces of trash.

You're not missing much. You could even find a mastodon community you like and start spreading your positive messages there.

Welcome to the future. Welcome to the resistance.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Reddit has been actively hostile for a while.

Here?
On one hand, it's a smaller place, so there's less content to browse...
On the other hand, it's a smaller place so you can reply to an older thread and still have interaction with people.

On reddit, if I replied to a thread that was 1h old, it was like sending a message in a bottle, floating in an endless sea where none would find it or shouting in the void.

Anyway, welcome home / make it your home.
Peace

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Other things I like:

  • The decentralized nature means you will never truly be banned from everywhere unless your behaviour is universally considered unacceptable, in which case good riddance
  • There are fewer of us, so some people care about keeping individual users around. I've still received bans from communities for reasons I find questionable, but that's in the nature of having people manage communities themselves.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Also the federated nature of it means that no one has enough power such that they can abuse it in a way that hides their abuse on the entire platform. With the modlog, you can see what the original message was that prompted a moderator response. And with other instances, you can make an account elsewhere and talk about it even if an admin banned you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here it feels like you have to really make an effort to get banned. Mods mainly stick to deleting rule breaking comments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's plenty of bans to go around, but mostly spam and the odd pathetic bigot.

When I discovered lemmy... I thought it was nice just being able to browse and not be immediately assaulted by several popups to login, cookies, or the classic "download our app" bullshit.
I know people love their apps, but the web UI works. Browsers have great features already like tabs, bookmarks, adblockers, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One of the things I hated about reddit was how they would slip sponsored ads in made to look like user posts as closely as possible. Of course they made it impossible to block them.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Imagine you are a smoker and the addiction makes it impossible for you to quit. Then one day nobody will sell you a cigarette or let you bum one off them.

Count your blessings and move on.

Reddit Karma ain't worth shit. Imaginary Internet points.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

My 13 year old account with 250,000 comment karma was perma-banned without warning for commenting "It's ok to punch Nazis". Since then, maybe 3 years, I've had probably 25-30 Reddit accounts. Pretty easy to create a dummy email account and set up a new Reddit account. I have a browser script that auto adds all my subs back for me if I just copy the link from my old account. I'm usually back up and running in about 10 minutes. But I finally decided to drop the platform after the election because it just isn't worth it anymore.

Mods of individual subs can get you banned site-wide if they don't like you. You can be auto-banned from individual subs if they've detected you commented in other subs they don't like. Their block system is a joke that prevents people from correcting other's misinformation. They banned 3rd party apps. And their co-founder/CEO is a trashcan of a human being.

Reddit is quickly becoming a cesspool. You should just give up on it. The internet is a big place.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was randomly banned for no apparent reason. They gave zero fucks. Sorry that this happened to you too.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, I'll just consider this being in good company, then!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Still Ted Lassoing. I love it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

My old account was 15 years old, approaching 2 million karma, never a single warning, no posts or comments ever removed for violating Reddit TOS and a some Zionist fascist pig admin didnt like a pro Palestinian comment and permabanned me

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reported! /joke

But that sucks. 15 years? I don't think I posted anything "political" aside from some LGBTQ stuff. I did poke some fun at some gamers who were butthurt about their game finally including girls. I don't think anything I said was all that controversial, but maybe they reported me for that. Warhammer 40k fans aren't above organized mass reporting from what I've seen on places like YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

I was very political, but everything said and posted was within TOS limits. 3 of my huge subs were abandoned and are now being run by shit mods. They claimed I was inciting violence by saying Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Welcome to reddit dawg. I had an account over 10 years old and another SFW account I was using that was about 5-6 years old. I was on my SFW browsing one day, tried to make a post, and saw that I was blocked, but there was no inbox message yet, so I went on my other account and saw that it had gotten a message about being banned for a comment made months ago, so I tried to appeal it, which was denied. Best I can tell they just banned all of my accounts once the first one got banned, even though I wasn't even aware of the ban in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We would love a Ted Lasso of Lemmy. Welcome aboard!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Thanks! I'll still try reaching out to the online friends I had made over there, but I don't think I'll bother with it again aside from that. I'll plan, instead, to find fun communities here for pep talks and stuff. I like cheering people on and have been told I'm good at it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Literally the reason I'm here now, banned because I share my computer with someone, which triggered some "ban evasion detection". Both of use appealed, both of us denied within hours, despite both accounts being multiple years old

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I got banned for reporting a post with the statement "links to nazi platform" (it was a link to X).

I got a message in my inbox about my account being given "a warning" for abusing the report system. I was then permanently banned an hour later.

I had like 5 accounts, one of them dating back to 2008. They are now all permanently suspended. Because I offended some loser moderator.

Or maybe they all got banned because I still used a third party Reddit client? Oh well. Fuck Reddit. I'll continue using my cracked third party Reddit client and browse Reddit in read-only mode. Lemmy can be where I actually contribute !

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I got a 7 day ban for saying you haven’t served your life sentence until you are dead, they said that was promoting violence, I decided if they rejected my appeal it could only mean they don’t actually read appeals and I should just leave.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh . . . wow. I don't think I did anything wrong, but I'm certain whatever I did was worse than that. I'm pretty sure I've said worse things to my favorite dog today (it's okay to have favorites). Plus, that was really f*ing funny. Reminds me of when my friends and I have "stoner thoughts" competitions.

My last winning one was "Whenever you shorten 'convenience store' and call it a 'c-store', you are removing the convenience for the sake of convenience."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I sure don't mean to go off topic but it's against TOS to have a favorite dog and not post a picture to back it up.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Reddit has been on this trend for a long while. It might be because you posted in a sub that's gotten scoured. It might be because you said a word or set of words that tripped their algorithm. You might have been reported by someone for some reason.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that Reddit actively does not want real users anymore. They just want lurkers and bots. You might have genuinely been banned for no reason whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

. . . [Quietly hides the fact that he is, indeed, a bot]

In all seriousness, though, thank you for that answer.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't use Reddit, nor do I tend to do so, so take what I say with a pinch of salt!

Reddit is one of those sites that utilizes AI moderation, so if you've been banned without any warning or notice, chances are your ban wasn't even authorized by another human, but instead by a bot. Your IP address can either be static or dynamic, and if you have a dynamic IP address that changes to an IP that is associated with a user who got banned at some point in time, chances are the bot will see you as that other person and assume a ban evasion.

You could try appealing. If that doesn't work, perhaps it's best to shrug it off and try a different social media. Lemmy isn't the biggest website in the world, but it's one of the best social medias I've used and people here are generally helpful and friendly!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It definitely stinks of automated moderation. At this point when I feel the urge to participate I remember how poorly managed it is and the low quality of most of the subreddits so the urge passes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Contact user support...oh right there is none

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Seriously fuck Reddit, it’s gone to shit

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I got permabanned twice. One account was for using a slur. I was quoting from a movie in a post about that movie (Glengarry Glenross). It was clearly a quote but they didn't even respond.

The second time I made comment that happened to be in a post about an Indian man on a train, something about the simple fact that every video I see with an Indian man and a train, the man will do something stupid and die. It was in no way racist but some twat complained that I was using a stereotype and I was permabanned again. Again, no reply when I chased them

Fuck Reddit to hell and back. It's full of argumentative self-righteous tools anyway.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yup, had this happen on 2 different accounts, both of which were in good standing. Same as you, no given explanation despite the message saying there would be, and no real recourse to appeal despite there being a provided link that simply looped on itself. Eventually, I was able to get a human via the "support team" who gave me the answer "All bans are final.". Your options are to make a new account or stop using their shit platform. Pick your poison.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I pick bourbon. Oh . . . oh, we were talking about something else. But, yeah, I'm going with quitting the platform. I don't see the use in trying to fight it, and even if I were to 'win', this will probably happen again in another month or so.

Side note: are you a raccoon that likes to debate, or is it debatable that you are a raccoon?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can only repay them in the same currency: Never give a damn.

Never give a damn about redit karma or anything they do, or promise. Never give a damn about how mods want you to be.

Make a new account in such a way that they cannot detect it, then go on with your life as if nothing happened.

Details: Use a new nickname, new IP address, no real name/age/location, a different app (or browser), a new mailaddress, subscribe a different set of subs (at the beginning). For the future: create your next account(s) before the current one gets banned.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Which LLM are you?

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