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Rep. Dan Crenshaw criticized Apple Maps for not renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, as mandated by Trump’s recent executive order titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.”

Crenshaw’s complaint reflects broader conservative frustration, as tech platforms and the global community continue to use the original name.

Critics compare the move to past nationalist gestures like renaming french fries "freedom fries," accusing conservatives of embracing identity politics and culture wars despite their political dominance.

The name change is unlikely to gain international traction.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The government can fuck right off with their Newspeak.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a huge distraction to get you worked up about a meaningless name change. Elon is heiling on stage like an edgy teen for further drama. Meanwhile EO are signed en masse and action is taken by the new administration. This time Trump and his cronies came well prepared with a plan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Who says I'm worked up? You wrote a whole paragraph, I wrote a quip.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

This is not about you.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

As someone who worked in mapping, many people don't realize how much this kind of BS actually comes up.

The map you see in Google / Apple maps isn't the map the whole world sees. What you see is what's culturally / legally appropriate for viewers in your region.

For example, in parts of India it's legally required that Jammu and Kashmir be displayed as being part of India on their maps. On Pakistan's maps it's legally required to be weirdly ambiguous, with a strange open border that doesn't properly close. The rest of the world gets dotted lines indicating it's complicated.

For most of the world the body of water between Korea, Japan and Vladivostok is labeled as "The Sea of Japan", but users in Korea will see "The East Sea". Is the body of water around Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, etc. the Persian Gulf or the Arabian Gulf? Depends on where you are when you ask that question.

This even has a strange effect when all the countries involved agree that a certain geographic feature is the border, but that geographic feature is a river. Some rivers, especially ones like the Amazon river keep shifting. Sediment piles up, erosion happens, and the river shifts. The river is still the border, but now someone has to go in and adjust the political border to match the river's new position.

So, if Trump does do something official to rename the Gulf of Mexico, the online mapping companies (and any offline ones that are left) will probably follow the rule and rename it... for their American users. The rest of the world will still see it as the Gulf of Mexico. It will just be yet another one of those funny exceptions the companies have to keep track of while displaying maps for a certain subset of users.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The rest of the world will still see it as the Gulf of America.

of Mexico** I guess?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks btw, really informative!

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I forgot that apple was a department under the president

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I feel sorry for Wozniak... Watching the company he helped build turn into what it has.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Tim Apple personally donated 1 million dollars to Trump

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Small dick energy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm waiting to hear what they want to do with New Mexico

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rename it to New America then in 4 years whine about New America trying to steal the light from old America because Democrats

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Only after they deport all the new Mexicans

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Probably a good time to try and sell maps and globes to red school districts.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

You know some friend of the administration already took that spot. It was probably their idea in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is this what small government looks like? I thought these guys were all about reducing regulations and allowing businesses to do as they please, free from government restrictions.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

You don't understand. They should be free of your restrictions, you should be bound by their restrictions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I thought these guys were all about reducing regulations

Did you really? Be honest.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Whoever obeys Nazis, I will boycott your platform. Plain and simple.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

That post also prompted me to check Google maps, and I got Gulf of Mexico, thankfully. However I'm sure there will soon be a US version with the proper denomination so that the new masters of the land can be placated.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Cause most google users aren't americans and the mental illness of a few sex criminals would disrupt their service.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It doesn’t matter who their customers are, Google is a us based company.

However, hopefully they are able to depose, delay, deny this ridiculousness

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Executive orders mean shit, show me all the freedom fries in american stores.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

As a Trans person I feel soooo bad /s

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure it's called "Gulf of How The Fuck Does This Lower Grocery Prices"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

If Apple changed the name to "Gulf of How The Fuck Does This Lower Grocery Prices" for a day in response I'd start using Apple Maps.

I'll be happy with companies ignoring this to set the precedent that these executive orders are toothless.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Hey everyone, I just signed a lemmy order changing the name of maralago to gaping jizz hole. Enjoy!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Time for everyone to start burner Open Street Maps accounts!

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (5 children)

For people always calling the others "snowflakes" and "easily triggered", they sure do have a thin skin.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Maybe, but this is all a distraction from the actions that matter. They don't want to debate the anti-trans stuff or the immigration stuff, which is objectively bad. They want to debate people not going with a made up name for a thing, which has no objectivity. The longer they can argue about this the less time there is to discuss anything important.

Its not just being thin skinned. It's a strategy of distraction.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (7 children)

“I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you were so sensitive” is my response to these types IRL.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Wait until iOS Auto Corrects them typing Gulf of America to Gulf of Mexico but only after they hit send.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (14 children)

They want an efficient government not wasting time and resources on unnecessary things ...

They get a government crying over the name of a body of water.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Fuck, I honestly thought this was the Onion. Somebody get me out of this timeline. I withdraw consent for this simulation!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Ahem. Umm, conservatives are angry that others are not calling something what THEY want it to be called?

Hmm. So.... I just feel like... perhaps, there's a similarity here. Some people... want to be referred to a specific way... but usually conservatives have a problem with that.

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