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Flirting with Trump is flirting with Nazism - Response to Andy Yen (CEO of Proton AG) on Reddit 📢📢📢 (lemmy.ml)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 38 minutes ago

Giorgio Galli ... the born of Nazism and please stop to rant about Trump and Nazism ... the Nazism did not born in Germany but in the civilized Vienna and in France, the young Hitler was having masters that did not seen a judge after the war and the heritage of them is still very much thriving in Bruxelles ... and really I am not here to lecture but to explore the web iceberg with freemind and happiness ... not to bother myself with these gross traces of ignorance ( very easy to be solved with 4-5 kilos of right books ).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago)

The Suisse should return Andy to Taiwan and the ROC can ship his ass off to mainland China to enjoy life under a dictatorship.

Reddit...f that noise.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 hours ago

Totally in good faith. A post from last year? Yea, suck my dick andy. Deleting my account asap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Tangential: shouldn't it be "Naziism"? Like, in "Nazi" the "i" belongs to "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei", or the "Natio—" part. But shouldn't there be another "i" that goes with the "ism" suffix, so "Naziism"? Am I thinking about it in the wrong way?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 hours ago

Get. Off. Reddit.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

People forget that the EU has a massive bigotry problem and has since forever. They hate the LGBTQ community even more than Americans somehow. This drives a lot of weird passive support for Trump by them. I've talked to quite a few Europeans on Discord who either think the Trump hate is overblown or outright like the guy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Uh what? I don’t think "a few Europeans on discord" is any representative way. Although I think we have a bigger west east decide (sometimes even per country), but in Western (or northern or even southern) Europe that’s definitely more accepted than in the US.

And European representative surveys have shown trump would have lost like 80:20 here.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

As swiss person I have to meet and talk to this guy, he can not be that stupid!

We definitely have something like the republicans party, it is called SVP (Schweizerische Volkspartei). SVP uses exactly the same tactics as republicans, like anti “woke”, anti regulation, anti common media, pro hate-speech(“anti censorship”), etc.

We just not have a single party to counter it, like democrats, but like 10 parties with little nuances.

We have some small parties besides SVP “on the republican site” but those tend to be irrelevant. Maybe, the anti corona party has a some relevance, still, but I guess their power is sinking.

I personally support the pirate party, which mainly stands for privacy, no matter if left or right, but the party it self is leading to the left (democratic) side.

At least, that is how I understand our situation here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago

I am sure he is very smart about a lot of things. Unfortunately US politics are not one of those things. I also suspect he is not that good at business considering he just alienated a lot of his customers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

That's fascinating that you have so many parties. Do parties not have a lot of power at the "federal" level? Also curious if you have coalitions between similarly aligned parties!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

This is how parliamentary governments work, they figured out how to resolve the bug in the US system that always tends towards two major parties. However the two-party system, so I've read, is actually a tad bit more resistant to the fascism bug, as parliamentary systems can have outright fascist parties winning a minority of the vote eventually grow big enough to take over and end the system entirely.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

They do have power. But it is split between around 4-5 bigger parties. Our federal council (similar to the President uf the US) is split into 7 persons, where the biggest parties get one or to seats. Like the mentioned SVP has "only" 2 seats and next big party the social Democrats have 2 seats as well.

What's nice in our system(in my opinion), there is no "The winner takes it all". Because our federal government is split between alot of parties, not one can "rule" alone. For every thing the want to pass, they need the support of multiple parties.

I wouldn't say we have ruling coalitions like you see in germany, but they do work-together if they have same goal.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 12 hours ago

Andy out here shooting straight through his foot and putting holes in his boat's hull.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

A wise man once told me, don't mess with politics. The moment you show stance (which usually isn't beneficial), you cut off options from yourself and endanger customer relationship.

Proton should just do business as usual, without that single post things would probably be just fine.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 hours ago

The fight for privacy and digital freedom is inherently political.

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