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[–] [email protected] 23 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

For those who like me can't read the original meme text:

"Leftists" whose political opinions on China, DPR Korea, Cuba, Israel, and Ukraine mirror the U.S. State Department's position

And then the face the person is seeing in the mirror is a clown.

I wouldn't have even tried to engage on the China / N Korea / Ukraine side of the analogy. The other one is a lot more absurd. I don't think there is any non-trivial number of "leftists" on Lemmy who think that Israel "has a right to defend herself" and deserves tons of weapons, or that Cuba is a terrorist state.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Could you elaborate on Cuban or Cuban-sponsored terrorism? I mostly agree with the US positions on these except for Cuba and maybe Israel. I also don't know Cuba that well. I know that some Cuban protests are suppressed, but I'm pretty sure that's not what terrorism means.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The US has been saying since the 80s that Cuba is a sponsor of state terrorism. I think it's mostly made up because they're communist and we don't like them. I think maybe Castro did a little bit of what when we do it is called "covert ops," but I'm not aware of Cuba being any kind of major sponsor of terrorism, in the same way that Saudi Arabia or Israel is, for example.

The State Department has some very minor legitimate beef with modern-day Cuba because they suppressed some protests, yes, and put a few hundred people in prison more or less for being the opposition. Every so often they do minor dictator stuff like that which we officially tut-tut at them for. On the whole, though, our beef with Cuba is just because nobody's forgotten the days when Che Guevara was public enemy number one, and Cuba got away with being on his side, and for no other reason that's more logical than that one.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

The US has been saying since the 80s that Cuba is a sponsor of state terrorism.

Angola stuff, I think. Not that our hands were clean in that conflict.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I saw this and it was the trigger I needed to finally block that community. I'm still trying to figure out how to block .ml entirely.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm still trying to figure out how to block .ml entirely.

I think this only becomes available to you if your instance is on a certain version.

But we shouldn't just do instance blocks, that's just ignoring the problem. We should all be on the lookout for this kinda BS so we can screenshot, compile and eventually petition our respective instance admins to defederate.

As well as cross-posting any good material you come across from a .ml comm to any other non-.ml comm

[–] [email protected] 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, you call out tankie bullshit on .ml, they ban you on every /c

[–] [email protected] 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Lol you can catch a .ml site-ban for calling out their BS in other instances too, they dgaf

[–] [email protected] 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I got banned for calling xi winnie, zero regrets

[–] [email protected] 20 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago

Awww yiss, now i got profile bling

[–] [email protected] 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Lmaooo these dingos think Kim jong un will holler at them if they suck his e-weiner enough

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago

Pooh doesn't have a penis, he's been pantsless for like a hundred years I think someone would see it by now.

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