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When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb
Wow, lots of people on Lemmy just look at screenshots of text and dont read anything anymore.
I dont think he said anything controversial. Read what he wrote.
He's not supporting Trump or the Republican party in general. He is calling them out for selecting someone good on antitrust. That's not controversial.
Here's what he said in Reddit
Source: https://snoo.habedieeh.re/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i1zjgn/comment/m7ahrlm/
Andy here, since it's my original post that's being reposted here, let me comment further.
My post is talking about Gail Slater, who is by all measures, actually a good pick, with a solid track record of being on the right side of the antitrust issue. Yes, she happens to be nominated by Trump, but her record speaks for itself.
This is not going to be a popular opinion, but on the specific issue of antitrust, Democrats fell short. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation. Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidently has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills for a vote. In the aftermath of this failure, great people like former Democratic rep David Cicilline left congress, leaving few strong voices for antitrust left in the Democratic party. In the meantime, at a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up - JD Vance.
By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand. And that's a missed opportunity for Dems, because by and large, support for cracking down on corporate monopolies is popular on both sides of the political spectrum. Unfortunately, corporate capture of Dems is real and in the end money won. It is hard to see how this changes, and Republicans are likely to lead the antitrust charge in the coming years.
From that perspective, and going back to my original post, Gail is a great pick. One should not equate our support of Gail for Proton not being neutral anymore. We continue to call out bad behavior from both sides, whether it's Dems or Republicans, on our core issues. Just a few weeks ago, we were called out for being in bed with Soros because we gave money to too many "liberal" organizations: https://proton.me/blog/2024-lifetime-fundraiser-results No, the Proton Foundation isn't the new Soros either (even if we may coincidentally fund some of the same things sometimes). We simply stick with our strongly held core believes, and leave politics out of it, because the issues we care about, should be apolitical.
UPDATE: I posted another comment further below in response to a user, but I'll reproduce it here for completeness:
I don't really want to wade further into what is obviously a very polarizing political topic, but since you are asking for some thoughts, I can share.
We have been fighting big corporate interests since the very beginning. People have short memories, so few remember that in 2019 and 2020, we were working with congressional Democrats on this issue. We're even cited a dozen times in the report, which by the way, was partially authored by Lina Khan, who at that time worked with Ciciline. This is the report here: https://proton.me/blog/congress-antitrust-report
The American Innovation and Choice Online Act (AICOA) was also mentioned. Guess what, we supported that too: https://proton.me/blog/congress-stand-up-to-big-tech More than with blog posts, I personally was on Capitol Hill trying to convince senators who were on the fence, on both the Democratic and Republican side. The votes where there, but in 2022, Democrats controlled the Senate, and ultimately Sen. Schumer decided what gets to be voted on, and as we know, AICOA was not advanced.
Epic vs Apple was also mentioned. Well, we supported that one too. In fact, we were one of the founding companies of the Coalition for App Fairness, along with, yes, Epic: https://proton.me/blog/coalition-for-app-fairness
The point I am trying to make is, in the past 10 years, our position on corporate monopolies has not moved. But US politics has shifted, and the parties themselves have moved. We're huge supporters of Lina Khan and her work. But you know who else agrees with Lina Khan on Big Tech? Actually, JD Vance, as he's publicly stated: https://fortune.com/2024/08/11/jd-vance-5000-child-tax-credit-support-ftc-lina-khan-tech-regulation/ Can you imagine the Republican Vice Presidents of the past taking this position?
It is not a bad thing that Republicans have moved so far on this issue, and are now in a position to go even further than Democrats have managed in the past four years. It's a good thing, and something that should be welcomed irrespective of your political leanings. Ultimately, we will judge actions, but for now, I am supportive of Gail Slater, just as I was supportive of Lina Khan. And honestly, it should not matter that one is a Republican, and the other is a Democrat.
And... now I have to get out of Proton. Not USA citizen, just a leftist from South America, but not gonna accept fascism in any country, neither will I support enablers of it.
God damn it, I just got fully in to proton, took me a year or so to slowly switch everything over, the new proton services like the drive, docs and wallet are pretty sweet. ugh. Gonna have to watch proton closely.
I have a paid Proton account but never fully switched from Google services. I guess that's a silver lining.
I was just permabanned for making this comment.
Reddit is in full censorship mode over this. Oh well not the first time, certainly not the last.
Same reason I left. I had been a user since like 2014. The censorship and banning of people who go against the hive mind is just insane. I criticized a mod (unknowingly) on a car sub because he was spouting stuff that was flat out wrong about a certain ECU programming thing. Got banned from the sub and permabanned from reddit less than 10 minutes later. I tried to appeal it and got the generic message back saying I had repeatedly violated reddit's content policy which was completely false. At no point did I say or do anything against their rules about hate speech and such.
It's idiotic as they're destroying their own userbase. At this point it's a website 75% bots run by bots. I have no interest in ever using reddit again or making another account.
Fucking hell. I just signed up for Proton last week. Why do these "alternative" companies always end up being run by techbro dumpster fires like their mainstream counterparts?
Already cancelled my yearly renewal. I'll switch to Mullvad and save some money anyways. Never really used Proton Mail, drive, calendar, etc but I wanted to support them.
cancelled today. I have a few months to find alternatives. I've been a paying customer for years. Proton has always been a bit buggy but it was worth it I thought. bowing down to tRump is a deal breaker.
Does anyone happen to know if the CEO of Tuta is a fucking noron?
I just switched the proton a month ago and so id like to avoid having to do this every few months
The main problem with Tuta is their major uptime issues lately, otherwise I'd already have switched. They are IMO the only real alternative to Proton.
I guess its gonna get worse as everyone flocks to them now
Shit, I was literally about to open a Proton account as part of my degoogling this weekend.
Ok, new plan. Sigh.
I've been trying to decide if I should subscribe to the pro/family plan for weeks now, as I work de-google myself.
Fuck.
Gonna have to start self hosting
This is exactly what I did. It’s the only way.
archive.pH doesn't load. Mastodon thread doesn't load. Anyone got an archive we can actually load?
I'm toughing it out unless someone offers me a good alternative. E2EE and has this whole suite of tools. However, it's unfortunate that I use my protonmail address for my main address and not my custom domain.
That's a pity. I was looking for a service to jump to from my current email and VPN. They were the top candidate but not in consideration now lol.
So many lies in one post (by Trump), it's hard to keep up with them.
We should collectively rename them to sometime like Protrum Mail, or alternatively Protoff Mail.
What the actual fuck. They are not even an American company. US does really try to dismantle Europe.
