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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

The US has a long-standing policy to commit genocide. Singling out one specific monster shifts blame away from the monsters still in a position to continue and worsen the genocide. The president needs a whole bunch of people to sign off on it and they overwhelmingly did so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Unfeeling and uncaring asshole.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope catholic god turns out to be real just so Biden will have time to reflect on his atrocities. Really disgusting inhumane excuse for a ’human.’

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If Catholic god turns out to be real, a _whole_lot of people are going to be unpleasantly surprised. Including, but not limited to:

  • everyone left in Palestine
  • almost everyone in Israel
  • most of America
  • a large percentage of actual Catholics
  • most of the people living in Asia
  • all of the Protestants
  • all of the atheists

And it really depends on which Catholic god you end up with. Eastern Orthodox? Western Papal? And today's Vatican wouldn't be recognized as being properly practicing Catholics to Catholics from 400 years ago, so maybe most of everyone on Earth? Certainly, at least 90% of us, if not more, are going to hell.

Let's all hope the Catholic god doesn't turn out to be real. Our collective best bet is probably Buddhism; or some random Universal Life Force cult with 18 members that nobody has ever heard of, who believes in a no-constraints, all-loving, all-forgiving Supreme Being. I'd be happy with a reasonably benevolent simulation, too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

everyone left in Palestine

how so? the Pope spoke against the genocide. putting Palestinian Catholics aside. Explain.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Relatively few Palestinians are Catholic. Muslims are not going to a Catholic heaven.

Source is Reuters, which is acceptable, I assume? Data is from 2007, but as it was shrinking back then, and since Israel has been purging Palestine of Palestinians fairly indiscriminatorily, and since Christians are unpopular in Israel to begun with, there's little reason to expect the IDF to be bothering to check the religion of the people they're murdering or spare Christians even if they did.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Muslims are not going to a Catholic heaven.

If the faithless and atheists can go to heaven why not Muslims? Muslims if anything at least believe in the Virgin Birth and Second Coming of Jesus Christ even if they don't believe in the Crucifixion and Trinity.

Of course among Muslims and Christians you will find those who believe only their tightly knit group is going to heaven and everyone else is going to hell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

I'm not sure Pope Francis is the most Catholic of Catholic popes. I'm certain many previous popes would have excommunicated him by now.

I guess it boils down to:

  1. Does the current pope dictate God's actions? Especially when the current pope's dictates differ so radically from the pope two generations ago?
  2. Is the Catholic God that mercurial? A few centuries ago, you'd be tortured into confessing to atheism and then burnt on a stake, but now it's A-Okay and you can go to heaven as long as you had good intentions?

I'm sure there's a 3 and 4, but honestly I feel like there would be some Benedictine and Jesuit monks in here debating the finer points.

The Pope is God's voice in Earth; that's the dogma, I guess. But it's hard to reconcile the messages of Francis and Paul VI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It just seems so criminal to murder thousands with your policies and then die 2 years later. At least both Bush’s lived long enough to regret their actions. We need a secular equivalent to “I hope he rots in hell.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Help the sky and the sky will help you. Did you know conspiration to commit genocide was a capital offense in the US? Just tie him to the chair

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I agree, although if we're wishing, I think it'd be better to wish this shit didn't happen in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

True, that would be ideal and probably easier for the universe to deliver than catholic hell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Hell just maximizes suffering. It doesn't prevent the suffering of the victims, and adds on to that the suffering of the perpetrators. It's as if the Christian God liked making people suffer. I mean, just read the old testament; he's a fucking sadist. New testament God is pretty chill, but for some reason most of the organized religion Christians focus more on the old testament and ignore the inconvenient, obvious facts of the New Testament, such as Christ clearly being a communist pacifist.