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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I went through so much effort to move my small business and team over to proton. wtf.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Ffs. I just switched a ton of stuff over to proton. Hopefully this is an individuals view and not that of the company as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Nope, unfortunately. See official response posted above.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought they are based in Switzerland

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

Really disappointing. Never imagined this from Proton. Truly dead to me now.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

Fox and Roku, everyone's two favourite small companies!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Yeah this really makes me doubt the security of the service.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Extra weird because this is always the narrative, yet Trump could be any further from "standing up for the little guys" if he tried. It's the same with the AfD in Germany, their voted policies (which is public as per the EU regulations) are as anti-consumer pro-corpo as you can be, even edging our truly crazy libertarian money sucker positions.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fuck me, I now feel like a clown for taking advantage of that lifetime subscription I bought a couple of months back.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Glad I changed my stack over a few months ago:

  • Proton Mail → Posteo
  • Proton VPN → Mullvad VPN
  • Proton Drive → Syncthing

I'd also recommend KeePassXC in place of Proton Pass, and Cake Wallet in place of Proton Wallet. However, these were both Proton services I never used anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Too bad, I was considering their service when my VPN service ran out. Not excluding them outright, but will have to keep a eye on it.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Dude got weird "Libertarian" vibes:

But he's just one of five board members of the Non-Profit that owns Proton AG, not really a doomsday event... yet.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

...and you're out. That's enough for me.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Theres the real problem with repugs. They think they are the "little guy"s

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't want to mix tech with politics, but what in the actual fuck?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago

Politics are mixed with everything.

In that case, I see this as speak with your wallet moment. That statement has done it for me and I am dropping proton for Tuta or something else.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How is it possible to not mix tech and politics?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He went after big tech as a punishment for fact checking the bullshit coming from his administration and his followers. That was it.

Now that all big tech has turned away from democrats (probably as punishment for their antitrust lawsuits), we will see a much different perspective from the Trump administration.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What?? „Stands for the Little guys“

Are you fucking tripping?!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (9 children)

God. Fucking. Dam. It.

I use too many of their services right now to get everything switched over to something else before trump takes power.

The swiss better fucking jail this guy if he hands over data to the us government without swiss court approval, per swiss law.

Now I have to find a new password manager, VPN, and email provider. Open to suggestions, but I want to find services that aren't hosed in the us or by trump friendly countries/companies, and ideally use open source software and zero access encryption.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Proton Mail --> Mail-In-A-Box

Proton Calender --> Mail-In-A-Box

Proton Drive --> Mail-In-A-Box

Proton VPN --> Mullvad VPN

Proton Pass --> Bitwarden/KeePass+Mail-In-A-Box

Proton Wallet --> Stick with your cryptos base wallet app. Never give your private keys to any service.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ah yes, Fox News. The company that is simultaneously 'news' or 'entertainment', depending on which description serves them better at the time. These are perfect representatives for the era where billionaires are supposedly 'anti-establishment' and book burners that police other people's identities and force their religion onto others are supposedly all for free speech and freedom of expression.

I just don't know anymore. How do you deal with people who will point at a fly and tell you that it's a bird, while sincerely believing it?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Burned my accounts, moved to Tuta.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I literally signed up for their VPN last night since NordVPN doesn't offer port forwarding. . . Oh well, I can 30 day guarantee it and get mullvad I guess. All I lost was a bit of time setting it up in all my containers, and any respect I had for Proton

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"omg, turns out this big tech company is not my friend"

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just some advice for all of you affected by this.

Begin demanding a response from the ownership of this company.

"Is this Message approved by your board, and owners"

Just leaving doesnt make a difference, and some of you in the comments bought services right before this. That fucking sucks.

We dont have journalists and media on our side to help any more(arguably we never did, but that's a separate discussion)

I think there are still good bones in Proton, but you know where at least one piece cancer is, and its in the worst spot. Demand as stakeholders that they remove the cancer or admit its not going to happen. Repeat your messages until they publicy respond as a company not just the head of it.

Its a shame if you dont do at least as much as expressing that they owe you an explanation and that you need the company as a whole, to why this had happened

This is a betrayal to many of you, tell them exactly what they need to do

Good luck. It only takes one of you to suceed and we all win

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