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So if you try to go to the Party of Communists USA website, you get a relatively short document by former members accusing the part of really bad stuff like reporting members to bosses and defending pedophiles.

Said members split and formed the American Council of Bolsheviks. As the Party of Communists USA is essentially dead due to these shenanigans, is the new organization worth working with? And can anybody give any perspective about this whole controversy?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Net is their new one, org got hacked

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

They did not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

We are https://partyofcommunistsusa.net/ now. The wreckers at 'american council of bolsheviks', who support fascist Ukraine, stole our old website when they couldn't get their way.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From what I can tell it's the same trick the state used on Redneck Revolt - a bunch of insiders accuse the leadership of sexual-based offenses, nothing is proven but it stokes enough controversy that the party implodes, and these "whistleblowers" lead a walk out to start a new party that never goes anywhere and really just exists to be a thorn in the side of the original party.

A few years back the state tried this tactic on them when they had "other comrades" accuse Comrade Helali of sexual-based offenses. Comrade FinBol has also received such accusations. Seeing a pattern here?

I don't believe these accusations personally. The state has used that play far too many times in recent years. I would also not associate with this council of Bolsheviks either. As usual, this is my opinion, one should do their own research.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Idk anything about whoever Helali is but that FinBol stuff was legit and the screenshots were pretty bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Christopher Helali, he's a high-ranking member of PCUSA. When they attempted to bring politics to the masses they ran him for congress in 2020 I believe and the mainstream media tried this tactic on him. Suddenly anarchistic adventurists and imperialist soldiers who worked with him in the past (he "served" in the US in northern Syria) came out of the woodwork to call him everything from an asshole to a rapist when he wanted to platform Marxist politics in the US.

I wasn't aware FinBol's had screenshots. Do you happen to have any links? FinBol's case doesn't match the same pattern as the other 2 as there were no group of "insiders" with him, I simply threw him in there because he too is a leftist who was accused of sexual-based crimes and as from what I understood he was innocent.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The American Council of Bolsheviks sounds like a larp or a Fed op , what a terrible name.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe the wreckers that split claim part of it was because PCUSA supports a Russia too much, so yeah, probably feds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are not wreckers; they are victims.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Why do you feel the need to support anyone who opposes PCUSA? I get that you may have had experiences of our members being needlessly rude to you on the internet, and I have no reason to doubt you. But why do you do the same in the opposite direction to Lemmygrad comrades who have done nothing to you? I wouldn’t support Ukranazi wreckers at CPUSA so please don’t to such to us.