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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 136 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Us middle aged fucks do too.

And so do some of the older fucks. Even my dad, a literal boomer, said that it wasn't like he killed someone useful.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Boomer dad sold health insurance in the 90s, made some bank, almost every customer was a referral from another. Think on that.

I can hear him from the afterlife, "FUCK that low life! I'd shoot him AGAIN!"

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Word. If someone is giving word of mouth to an insurance agent, they're doing the job the right way. Gotta love people like that :)

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My old man sold a policy to an old woman.

"When will I be covered?"

"You already are, the second you signed, like I said."

She slipped and broke her back in the bath, minutes after dad left. Covered. Done. Word spread like wildfire.

Dad didn't sell for one company, he sold for 20. He could tailor the contract to one's situation, wasn't beholden to one company's product. He sold what was right for a given person.

He later made bank from those same elderly people, converting their sorry CDs into annuities. Saved them loads of money, and made them more.

Dad wasn't always the most moral man, but goddamn he tried later in life. Still proud of his drunk ass.

Sucks that such a position exists, but he did his best. (This was in the 90s.)

EDIT: I should note, dad wouldn't have shot the CEO. He hated guns. He would have beat him to death, mano a mano. He practiced karate for 30-years, and was a bouncer for much of that time. Because he liked to fight. Complicated man, complicated life.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think I would have loved a chance to meet the guy. I'm an ex bouncer, martial artist too. And, like him, I enjoyed a good, fair fight, but didn't mind the chance to cut loose when it came.

We all have flaws for sure. Gods know I do lol. But your dad managed to help people and be someone his kid could love and admire. That right there is as good as it gets.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Didn't meet him until I was 20. Coming from being adopted into my grandparent's Beaver Clever family into dad's, system shock. He was a wild guy, died too young, but he burned that candle at both ends.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 77 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Well yeah, it's natural to side with the person who stopped a killer.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Turns out, the only person who can stop a bad guy with a corporation is a good guy with a gun.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gun owners - 100,000,000 cowards and one hero lol

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

idk, John Brown was pretty cool.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Dunno who that is but I'm guessing he croaked

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

But if I searched, then typed the reply, it would unarguably take longer, no?

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

just wondering how someone lives to adulthood without knowing about the absolute gigachad that John Brown was.....

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

Stopped a mass murderer, even.

[–] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know, this is the part that really drives me nuts about this whole thing. A murderer murdered a murderer.

Murderer A, he's taken care of. The judicial system will put him in front of a jury, he will be tried. He will be found innocent or guilty. The system handles murderer A.

Murderer B on the other hand, just screw the laws of humans for a moment, the laws of physics say that he shouldn't be murdering any more after death, but nope. People are still dying. You would think this is where the system would kick in and start putting a stop to it but nope, corporation is still killing. Hell the meeting murderer B was headed to didn't even get delayed.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's no law of physics that says people will stop dying just because the person who caused them to die was killed. Thomas Midgely Jr. died in 1944, he's still killing people. The wheels he put in motion still haven't come to a stop.

(he invented Tetra-ethyl lead and CFCs, he's at least slightly damaged every living thing on the planet for a century)

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like his death was some kind of cosmic justice.

I don’t believe in any kind of higher power, but he was crippled by his inventions, which caused him to design an elaborate cable system so he could zip line around his house instead of using a wheel chair.

He got his neck caught in his zipline contraption and strangled himself getting out of bed.

Not exactly justice for the billions of lines he’s negatively affected, but it is kind of funny that he kept inventing stuff that killed people, and he was in turn killed by his last invention.

There's this hilarious line in his Wikpedia entry:

Bill Bryson remarked that Midgley possessed "an instinct for the regrettable that was almost uncanny".

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

I think you mean ,Luigi corp LLC, can't hold the company director liable for something out of his hands.

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 65 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You really can't be surprised by this

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

You can, strictly speaking. Many mistakes are available.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago

Most of the population doesnt relate to some 1% fuck committing mass social murder? Strange, we'll have to work overtime to uncover why this is.

[–] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Actually, the victim is not the one that was shot.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago
[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 months ago

First time I’ve had some faith in humanity in a while.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There was no victim in this shooting

[–] uis@lemm.ee 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean? Luigi is victim of capitalism here.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago
[–] AAA@feddit.org 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe because the same people who are asking for sympathy now, are the people who hide their sympathy behind "it's business" when it's the other way round.

Sympathy has to be earned.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah I remember seeing estimates where someone said 51,000 people were denied life saving care during his time as CEO. If there was no sympathy for their lives, why would people be sympathetic for his?

Also when someone told me they shouldnt have shot him, they should have just punched him or something I asked if it should be 1 punch for all 51,000 lives... Because I have a feeling that 2 weeks later (a little over 14 hours I have been informed) when he's done getting punched once per second I don't think there would be much left of his corpse. The bullet is more "humane"

[–] ef9357@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 months ago

Agreed, plainly stated Brian Thompson was a mass murder protected by the system. IMHO, Luigi is simply an insurance adjuster.

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

(51k punches at one per second just takes 14 hours and 10 minutes)

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Lol, thanks for doing the math. It is a very efficient line of people punching I must say

[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This Brian guy was pure evil. Why the heck is anyone other than other evil CEOs sympathizing with him?

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

An entire generation plus of lead poisoning.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The headline doesn't lie, but importantly:

48% said they view the killing as totally or somewhat justified.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Lower than I expected honestly.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We need a more accurate term for him than "victim".

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago
[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

The UHC customers his policies helped fuck over are the victims.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

No, they very much sympathize with brian thompson's millions of victims, too.

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Gee I wonder why!

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Old news atp

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)