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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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submitted 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from [email protected] for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don't want to insult anyone here being a 'bastard'. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Knee-jerk reactionary vegans? In a vegan community?

You don’t say!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

i swear a lot of these are plants… the way to degrade leftist online spaces is to just be so extreme it’s absurd and everyone feels outcast….
of course first they grow their little sub until it’s the biggest one, and then they start pissing everyone of as much as possible by being so much more communist, trans, vegan, whatever….
then you walk away feeling disconnected from vegans….
like did you see the person with “dragonfucker” as their preferred pronoun? a bunch of people got banned for saying it’s obviously concern trolling and nobody’s gender is actually “dragonfucker”…. for gatekeeping or some dumb shit…
how are these established mods with huge communities? they must’ve taken over or been fake in the beginning…

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I (a vegan) got banned from there for finding the love of cows cloying. I said we shouldn't have to pretend cows are cute to convince others not to kill and eat them.

It really isn't a place for even back and forth amongst friends, "no conversation - only agreement"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I think cows are adorable (in a positive manner :D) but yes, completely agree. Being a vegan shouldn't require that you passionately love being in contact with all kinds of species. I mean - despite them playing a role in the ecosystem - who loves ticks or mosquitoes?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

cloying

adjective

excessively sweet, rich, or sentimental, especially to a disgusting or sickening degree

Neat, new word.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

I mean what level of vegan are you? Do you eat anything that casts a shadow?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

jesus christ. i don't think i've ever seen a longer sidebar as I scroll down to the modlog... not a good start...

and okay, so the mod is unhappy about a vegan restaurant turning to non-veganry to stay alive? to the point where they're silencing all discussion of it in a positive or even ambivalent light? This seems like there's more to it than the mod is willing to admit publicly. "the restaurant isn't vegan" doesn't account for "it's a shame but I'd rather an otherwise vegan restaurant survive than not. how sad" and "it seems like there just weren't enough vegans in town to keep it alive" being banned. it's clear ethics policing and again, im sensing some passive-aggression and unstated resentments on the mod's part.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

PTB. vegans deserve better representation in their leaders than this i hope we can get an alternative community that can allow discussion without weird purity purges.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 19 hours ago (18 children)

Lol found out here that I had been banned from the community. Ty for sharing the information :)

Regarding the matter, I understand their reaction.
I've been interacting with some vegan circles IRL and some are more "hardcore" (not in a negative way) than others. When you consider animal exploitation as mass slavery, mass torture and mass murder, it becomes increasingly difficult to tolerate even light deviations from the all-vegan path.

This being said, I would have preferred they had a better wording for the temp ban reason than "fake vegan" by which I feel insulted and hurt.