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A few days ago I was really bored and thought... Fck it, it can't really be that bad and paid for a month, wouldn't hurt to try...

Well that was a waste of money...

1st issue: Can't stream over airplay.

A common thing i do because I'm a lazy piece of sh!t is I have a piece of software called "uxplay" which is a software airplay server that works way better than it has any right to. So what I do when I'm too lazy to get up from my couch is I connect my Mac with the uxplay server and just watch things that way. It's a bog standard M3 MacBook air, nothing done to it, nothing...

So imagine my surprise when I tried to play Netflix while streaming over airplay and just saw a black screen... Yep, it just did not work... I couldn't believe it at 1st but yep, apparently it's a part of their DRM...

Issue 2: 4k is a lie...

Ok, I thought to myself, fine, I'll watch it on my Mac directly... But the quality looked... Off. Sure enough, it was streaming at 1080p with a bit rate so low I could practically count the pixels... Ok, I thought to myself, I've heard of Netflix having issues on Linux (why I didn't even try it on my PC) maybe I have something setup wrong... So I look at their docs and they state that safari should be able to play 4k full quality (yk, the thing I'm fucking paying for), I was trying to watch it on Arc (chromium based browser) so I thought, fair enough, I'm just gonna use safari... I log in do everything.

Still 1080p with an ass bit rate

Wtf

At this point I'm proper pissed off, I would have had less issues had I pirated the fcking show I wanted to watch at this point... But I gave it one last attempt, windows.

3rd issue: Windows... It's by itself an issue

So, I have a stealth windows GPU passthrough virtual machine... The kind that most kernel level AC can't detect. So I went "eh, if kernel level AC can't detect it, surely Netflix won't be able to". And to it's (the virtual machine's credit) it was not detected... Problem is, 4k still didn't fucking work. On Netflix's own fcking website it states that edge should be able to play 4k no issue, so I relented and reinstalled edge to my debloated VM... Well that was a waste of time, the bit rate was a bit better but it was still 1080p... I tried extensions, changing flags, nope, Netflix just did not wanna stream at 4k... DESPITE ME FUCKING PAYING FOR IT... Ok, I thought, I have one last option, Netflix has an official windows app, except it's only on the Microsoft store which just sat there for 5 minutes and then threw an error "unable to apply update" when trying to install the app...

Idk why people would ever pay for this shit, honestly. I didn't expect anything and I was still disappointed. I didn't expect it to work on Linux which is my daily driver but to be having issues on supposedly supported platforms, both Windows and Mac is completely unacceptable.

Afaik, their 4k plan is a straight up scam as I could not get it to stream at 4k, regardless of what I tried...

And I know it's not my internet or my setup, I have gigabit internet ffs...

Sorry for the rant, I'm just really butthurt about having spent money on a service that doesn't fcking work...

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Does anyone else read comments that self-censor swearwords in a squeaky voice? Like the commenter is 12 or so?

Heckin heck!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I know I may come off bad with this question but I ran into it a while back and felt like a fool.

What show were you trying to watch, and does that show come in UHD.

When I had it I would stream to the TV so it may be different but not all shows and movies Netflix has comes in 4K.

It may all not give you that option because the resolution of the M3 MacBook Air is 2560x1664 and not actually 4k (3840 x 2160) I understand the pixel density changes things but the native resolution is what I am referencing. Unfortunately Netflix is not going to stream a higher resolution than the display natively supports from my understanding. May not hurt to hit up support with Netflix to see they can do anything to get it to stream 4K. Maybe they’ll even refund your money.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Here's the thing though, even if you're right, I shouldn't have to call support to get the resolution I'm already paying for. I pay extra for 4k, what my screen is, pixel density, etc shouldn't matter. I am paying for 4k, I should get 4k.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Have you tried an actual TV?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I haven't met anyone under the age of 40 that still uses a TV to watch stuff

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Bought a 65inch TV for like $300 at Walmart. Hooked it up to my Pc to watch shows. Works good. Never connected it to the internet and never will. Just need an HDMI cord

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, I don't have a tv... Nor do I have any intention of buying one...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (3 children)

So, you are complaining that a TV streaming service, with primary focus on streaming onto smart TVs, don't perform on devices which are not main devices it caters for?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Precisely, it's never marketed as a TV-only service anywhere so I have the full right to complain when I'm getting screwed over.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hey hey Felix! Back with your shit takes again, i see!

Another way of seeing it is they're pissed about a service not working as advertised.

Examples for your reading comprehension impaired self:

So I look at their docs and they state that safari should be able to play 4k full quality (yk, the thing I’m fucking paying for)

On Netflix’s own fcking website it states that edge should be able to play 4k no issue

Obviously they're the stupid ones for simply believing what the company stated. Next time they'll know to ask you for your input first!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Back with your shit takes again, i see!

No, I don't shag your wife anymore.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Are you 12? What kind of response is that?

He called out your bad take and all you can say is 'i fucked your wife'.

OP is right, if advertised, it should do 4k via one of the supported browsers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Are you 12?

Are you suggesting your wife prefers children? That's concerning.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Have you experienced what passes for "an actual TV that plays Netflix" these days?

Miss me with that shit.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Always-online locked down ad-riddled spyware on cheapass unfixable planned obsolescence hardware.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are you?
Modern "Televisions" are pretty much smartphones with a big ass screen connected to them, and as such often requires an internet connection and some form of a login to use, even if you're hardwired directly to it.

Modern tvs aren't just a screen that displays the data you send it, they're a standalone ad serving machine

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Modern "Televisions" are pretty much smartphones with a big ass screen

So, don't you think watching on good quality "big ass screen" is nicer?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Is it worth giving up your data for a bigger screen?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Know how to stream Netflix in 4k on a PC? Install the Winstore Netflix app. It's legit that easy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Big corps like Netflix only care about supporting the 90% of users to who operate in a bog-standard configuration. They really couldn't care less about supporting things like reverse engineered AirPlay, debloated Windows, Linux running on a Mac, or anything else that's not damn near configured exactly as it was when it was first removed from the box.

It is not worth the engineering investment to make it work. They would spend more money maintaining these features than they would earn from it.

You can have whatever opinions you want about that reality, but that's just how it is. Blame capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"It's just like that" isn't good enough. Again, I'm paying more for 4k. There were no disclaimers that it only works on TVs or what I'd have to do to get it to work on my "unmodified* Mac... I expected to have issues on Linux but not being able to play 4k on my Mac is way too much for me...

Welp, guess the 7 seas are a more welcoming environment for rapscallions like me then. (I just wanna get what I'm paying for)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Go pirate. That's what I do when shit doesn't work.

I just don't also fool myself into thinking they will ever change their ways so long as it's profitable 🤷

I'm not saying you're wrong. Nor am I telling you to accept the shitty quality stream as the best you can get. I'm just saying this is how the system is set up right now and it's not a Netflix problem. It's a capitalism problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I canceled Netflix several years ago after having used it as my primary source of media almost since they first started their streaming service.

The problem I had is that the quality of their content decreased so dramatically that even though it worked fine from a technical perspective, there was nothing I wanted to watch. They used to have extensive back-catelogues of shows from all sorts of different national cable networks, tons of interesting foreign shows, documentaries, obscure indie films, etc.

Slowly but surely this all disappeared. Networks stopped licensing content to Netflix. As soon as they realized that streaming was the way of the future, they wanted to capitalize on it with their own streaming services. In a way, Netflix was a victim of their own success.

Now they're essentially just a TV network of their own and not the aggregator of media that they used it me. The few decent originals that they have were just not justification enough for me to pay for a service I might use a few times a year.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Wrong community. You should join [email protected] ;)

Edit:

reinstalled edge to my debloated VM... Well that was a waste of time, the bit rate was a bit better but it was still 1080p... I tried extensions, changing flags, nope, Netflix just did not wanna stream at 4k... DESPITE ME FUCKING PAYING FOR IT... Ok, I thought, I have one last option, Netflix has an official windows app, except it's only on the Microsoft store which just sat there for 5 minutes and then threw an error "unable to apply update" when trying to install the app...

Sounds less like a Microaoft/Windows rooted issue but rather your debloating process fucked with the fragile internals of Windows.
It's the same as fucking with the permissions on /sbin (don't have a better example) and being surprised why you can't access binaries in there anymore.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Probably, still doesn't explain the Mac issue though

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (7 children)

It's ludicrous that the original pirate-killer service has become such a bad deal. 13 years ago it was such a good deal that it didn't really make sense to pirate anymore. Now it's triple the price, 1/3 the quality content, and a words experience.

I would have had less issues had I pirated

This right here is the problem. Consumers are being punished for paying for their service. I would be more than happy to hand over my hard earned money for products and services that are good value. I'm not trying to get something from nothing here. It's absurd that we could get better than they're promising, let alone actually delivering on, and it could cost us nothing.

Yesterday, I learned that several titles on Netflix are locked out from the ad-supported tier "due to licensing restrictions". Inexcusable. Pay, still sit through ads, get a fraction of the library. I think I'm gonna start building a NAS and home library this year. BDs and DVDs can be snatched up for cheap from pawn shops and eBay. I'll do it legally just so I can tell any FBI pricks to go fuck themselves if they should ever decide to check on my shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I have no issue with paying for services and software in general. If the service provides me with what I expect from it. For eg, I can very easily pirate games but choose to buy a lot of them, especially indie games on steam because steam offers and has offered me an excellent service for years...

But when 🏴‍☠️ becomes more convenient, easier and can provide a better experience for less effort is the moment when I stop paying... I'm not gonna pay for the privilege of maybe, if the fcking stars align getting permission to watch 4k. I pay for 4k, you give it to me or I stop paying, simple as that.

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