I want to see this guy explain that to the 10 year old.
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And it really would be so easy for them to AT LEAST argue from the perspective of "Allow abortion for 10 year olds"
There are people out there that would be ok with doing this. I’ve met them and I never want to see them again.
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This is one of those topics that people like to force their views on others and not care about the consequences. Another good example is porn. "I don't think people should watch porn" is something people actually vote for. Yet all the studies performed show sexual assaults and raped increase everywhere you ban porn. So forcing their views on people has real consequences and they just don't want to acknowledge them.
A vote to ban porn is a vote to increase rapes and sexual assaults. Yes that includes more children being raped as well.
A vote to ban abortions doesn't stop abortions, all it does is increase the number of mother's and babies dying from unsterilized attempts at aborting, children being thrown in dumpsters, buried alive, left outside, dropped at fire departments, put into underfunded orphan systems that have more kids than they can get adopted BEFORE you took away their safer way of not abusing a child.
The only thing these votes do is take away people's choice, and hurt people.
A vote to ban abortion or porn is a vote to hurt people.
With the porn issue, as well as prostitution, you have the unfortunate conflation of two different positions: "I don't want bad things to happen to women", and "I want everyone to follow my moral code".
It's an unfortunate reality that increases in demand for industries that can leverage human trafficking leads to an increase in human trafficking. It's not irrational for someone to be concerned with that.
For those people, discussion about how legalization has aggregate benefits, or how the legalization enables regulations that permit the outcomes to be better even though it's more common.
With the latter group you really can't argue effectively because their position wasn't arrived at out of concern for outcomes. Sexual assault being bad doesn't make something else not bad.
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Okay, what the fuck is up with the rape apologetics and anti-bodily autonomy chubs in these comments?
Likely trolls or sock puppets meant to try and legitimize their pro-rape position. Spoiler, it doesn't work NEARLY as well as they think it does.
And yet, the ghouls won the election.
Maybe it works better than we give it credit for.
More like the Democratic Party lost the election.
Oh it definitely does, Lemmy just likes to believe it doesn't.
It's funny that one instance of child rape apologia creates so much more in these comments. There are some real debate lords(/trolls) out here making arguments that would be immediately tossed if faced with a child victim in real life.
We also shouldn’t have to rely on these cases to protect a woman’s inherent right to her body.
An Unborn child isn't "her body" (Let's see how you spin this as a "Rape Apology")
Nothing to spin. It isn’t a child. It’s a fetus. That’s the whole crux of the debate. You think it’s a person, many of us do not. If this argument was the slam dunk you think it is then the entire debate wouldn’t exist.
Are you so arrogant as to think you’ve solved arguably the most challenging and controversial ethics question of the modern era?
It’s using her body so she has every right to remove it in the same way it’s legal to shoot someone who’s on top raping her.
It’s not her body. It’s a parasite