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Summary

In 2024, conservative-leaning online spaces emphasizing traditional masculinity gained mainstream influence, driven by figures like Joe Rogan and trends like the “tradwife” movement.

Platforms like X, under Elon Musk’s ownership, became hubs for anti-“woke” sentiment, while podcasting further amplified right-wing ideas.

This cultural shift mirrored Trump’s election victory and reflected backlash against progressive gender norms.

Though some view these spaces as promoting traditional values, critics warn of growing misogyny and radicalization in the “manosphere.”

The rise of such spaces highlights deepening political polarization online.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Rise? How long ago did they write this? Were a solid decade past rise. It rose.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Yeah this is like the past decade.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don’t understand what hawk tuah has to do with this but I haven’t listened to her podcast. Is she pushing right wing ideas or something?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Any desperate meme shit like this circles the bowl and gathers in the gutter. The gutter is a place exclusively run by conservatives so they can catch failed actors/comedians and the latest conservative criminal clown on parade (I.e. Rittenhouse, protest gun couple, etc) She's probably fine enough, but was likely vulnerable and is now fully surrounded by a grift cocoon (hence the crypto bullshit). She's also likely drinking her own kool aid by now, getting fed coke and kept on a constant schedule to keep her on the hamster wheel. They'll milk every drop and especially "spit on that thang" as it all burns out and the grifters infrastructure drastically discounts the condoms with her face on them in the merch store as they move on to the next pray in the headlines. Conservative soccer moms will then buy graphic year with her face on then for $4 after it becomes a bargain basement licensed meme like the grumpy cat.

We live in a cloud of shit.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Wikipedia says she's from Tennessee. That's the only thing that hinted at conservatism that I've seen

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Apparently she got involved in a big crypto scam or something too. Not sure if that makes her explicitly right wing though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Memecoins aren't a scam. You can't say that someone who is selling dog shit is scamming people when they tell you that its dog shit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

They lied and said the dogshit would make them magically rich when they bought it.

It's a scam

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah it seems like an unrelated thing that the author is trying to force to fit the trend their article is about.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I mean, she ran a crypto rug pull. If I had to guess...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So I’ve heard but I don’t really see the connection between that and the manosphere stuff the rest of the article is about. Con artists who take advantage of publicity have always been around.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I honestly feel bad for that woman's journey regardless of her politics. She got famous for being open about her sexuality, and then a bunch of old men like Bill Maher slobbered all over her, and then she got suckered in to sponsoring a crypto scam that she obviously had no understanding of, and now she's facing potential legal trouble for it.

She's basically been taken advantage of every step of the way because she's apparently not especially savvy enough to figure that out and really the only reason is that she's conventionally attractive and frankly sexual. For the Bill Mahers and crypto bros, that was enough to exploit her in every way they could.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She's a grown adult I'd be with you, but she was defending the coin pretty hard in that Coffeezilla segment, she took advantage of the 15 mins as much as possible and in a lot of ways succeeded. If she didn't know what crypto was and what happens when influencers get involved with it, she shouldn't have exposed her fans to it, but she saw the bag and went ahead.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because, like so many other Americans, she was taught to grab on to that brass ring and don't let go if people notice you. I don't blame her for that either.

I'm not suggesting she isn't still responsible for her actions, and if she is charged in the crypto scam, so be it... but I still feel bad for her.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your first paragraph feels an awful lot like you are suggesting she isn't responsible for her actions.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

My second paragraph should have led you to the opposite conclusion.

I can pity someone and not blame them for what they did but still feel they should be responsible for their actions when they are bad actions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Empathy is in extremely short supply these days, at least online.

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[–] kn0wmad1c 30 points 3 days ago (3 children)

At some point, you need to hold the figurehead accountable for the scam so that other potential future figureheads will know to do some research before putting their name on illegal shit.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (32 children)

running crypto scam in fourth year of our lord covid? she should have know better, could have learned about it at any point during last eight years or so. if it's something she had no idea about maybe she shouldn't do it in the first place. she had these 5 min of cringey fame and used it all on grifting

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The fact that I have no idea what "Hawk Tuah" is means I'm doing something right.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (34 children)

Being unaware of popular culture isn't a badge of honor. There's nothing wrong with not knowing what Hawk Tuah is but don't pat yourself on the back for it lol

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I disagree. Fucking skibidi toilet living rent free in my head.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

And I don’t know what that is, circle of life.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The far right has been there from the jump. The ~~KKK~~ Order used to pull armored truck heists and use the proceeds to buy computers so they could collaborate on the early internet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I haven't heard this before. Source?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They were called The Order, and I misremembered their constituency: more neo-nazi than KKK, although one of their goals was to be a bridge between the two groups.

Apparently they made a movie about them recently, of the same name, so I’m finding it hard to search for info about the group itself, but I recall hearing the computer-buying tidbit from Behind The Bastards and being able to find a source for it online.

In case you wanna continue the hunt: I believe it had a sepia-tone picture or illustration at the top of the article and it was a long-form story not a current event piece. I also recall they were specifically Apple II computers, but searching podcast transcripts for the word “apple” yields a flood of results for “apple podcasts”, so not much help there.

This tool seemed promising, but didn’t quite get me there: https://podscripts.co/podcasts/behind-the-bastards/

Wikipedia can at least corroborate the armored car bit:

Their later robberies were more effective, including a bank robbery, followed by a series of three armored car robberies. In the armored car robberies, they took a total of $4.1 million, including their final armored car robbery near UkiahCalifornia that netted them $3.8 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Order_(white_supremacist_group)

Edit: Part of the problem with the podscripts approach may be that the transcripts are far from perfect:

Beam admitted that he had set up computer billet and boards for different fascist groups around the country,but denied that these boards were used for any illicit communication.

“Billet and boards” instead of “bulletin boards”

Edit 2: Ooh, I think I posted the source on Reddit at one point, and I haven’t scorched-earth’d my comments. I wasn’t able to find it doing site:reddit.com “kibiz0r” armored trucks but you might find it that way if you experiment a bit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hawk tuah (/ˌhɔːk ˈtuːə/ ⓘ HAWK TOO-ə)[a] is an internet meme originating from a viral YouTube video posted in 2024. During a street interview, Haliey Welch used the catchphrase hawk tuah, an onomatopoeia for spitting or expectoration on a penis during oral sex, specifically, fellatio.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawk_tuah

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Haliey Welch

Did her parents spell her name wrong on the birth certificate and then just run with it?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

She is young enough to have been part of the normal name spelled stupid trend that was common in the 90s and 2000s. Which as an aside whoever started that trend needs to be set on fire, if only for the misery they inflicted upon bureaucrats.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

What a scoop NBC!

Hey have you checked out this whole hydroxychloriquine thing? I think there's something to that! Check it out NBC!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

I thought Hawk Tuah was a nick name. Nope.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haliey_Welch

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