Archaeologists are, I'm sure, in agreement with the U.S. government. Although archaeology is (generally speaking) inherently destructive, archaeologists do everything they can to limit the disturbance of sites as much as possible. They do everything they can to respect the dead. This is craven profit-seeking.
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This is ~craven profit-seeking~ America.
The joke doesn't really work here when America is also the one fighting it.
This is capitalism?
Tell the government it’s a Native American grave site and they’ll lead the expedition themselves.
Tell the Canadians their is Residential School graves and they'll swear up and down that it doesn't matter. Or is that just my racist uncle?
Isn’t the wreck in international waters? What gives the US any claim here?
The first paragraph of the article gives a summary of what the US is relying on:
The U.S. government is trying to stop a planned expedition to recover items of historical interest from the sunken Titanic, citing a federal law and an international agreement that treat the shipwreck as a hallowed gravesite.
lots of US passengers on the boat, i guess.. it was bound for a US port.. they're trying to keep out grave robbers, from the site where a lot of Americans died with all their stuff..
It isn't a grave site.
A grave is where someone is purposefully buried. This was a disaster site. There are no bodies. It was well over a century ago.
There's a strong case for documenting history. There's a strong case for documenting the science of newly found bacteria and organisms around the wreck.
There is no case that this is a "gravesite". Ground Zero wasn't left alone. Pearl Harbor has a whole fucking gift shop memorial/boatride floating above one of the ships. Why is it suddenly that Americans are getting up in arms over a ship they've got no reasonable claim to. Sank in international waters, it's passengers were primarily from Europe, the ship was from Europe, the company that owned it was a British company but here comes America, yet again, acting like they own the fucking planet and everything on it.
Not really giving a flying fuck what America says about international agreements when they break them constantly, back out of them last second, and hypocritical enough to do the same shit they're complaining about.
It isn't a fucking gravesite. There's a reason they reburied pretty much everyone in their own graves. I don't row out a few hundred kilometers to go pay respects to my uncle.
I wonder if the company planning the expedition is doing it to preserve history or doing it for profit driven reasons
They are not mutually exclusive.
The US merely need to send a USCG cutter there and "inspect" the expedition ships. Keep doing this everytime they go to the site. Issue fines for every minor infraction and send them back for remedial action.
why do i have to spend money on that
I don't think the USCG goes out that far. It's about 780 nautical miles from the Maine coast. If anything it would probably be in Canadian waters, since it's about 320 nautical miles from Newfoundland.
- Its not a grave
- Graves are not forever
- This isn't in USA
Let them go. Hopefully their house will hit the market and do a small part in alleviating the crisis.