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Since Lemmy is federated, and the admins of each instance choose what’s allowed and what’s not in their own instance.

How do you feel about what’s allowed and what’s not in your current instance ?

I’ll start: I’ve read people complaining about my instance admins, but I haven’t experienced nor seen anything I specifically disagree with.

And I’ve read things they wrote that I absolutely agree with, like not federating with Meta under any circumstances.

So for now, I’m happy with it. If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

Both on lemm.ee and thelemmy.club its not very strict its just Common sense rules.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

I've had some disagreements with admins of my instance and mods of some communities here and I'm yet to be banned. So, it's alright I suppose. Although I must say that I'm on the same general side of the political spectrum as the admins.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago

I'm on world. Fuck the admins of world.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

I am the only (AFAIK) Italian instance and pretty happy. No censorship.

I don't know how people from Lemmy.world stand it, honestly.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

"Censorship" has become a buzzword and lost all of its meaning

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The line is at least very blurred with moderation. One person's moderation is another person's censorship.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Its the same thing. People are just primed into thinking that censorship is universally bad in every instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

It simply means that somebody stopped you from talking.

That's it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (8 children)

.ml here, I'm happy with this community. I know the reputation it has, but honestly, I haven't really seen it. I'm a hardcore leftist, but I've been very critical of China, Russia, etc. And I'm not a tankie. Obviously haven't been banned or had my comments removed.

The mods here seem quite reasonable, and of course if folks don't agree, there are a lot of other instances.

I used to be a free-speech absolutist when I was young, but then I realized that there isn't such a thing. Even the few places online that pride themselves on having "no censorship" like 4-chan still have a handful of things that they don't allow.

Quite frankly, I think those places are pretty nasty overall and I have no desire to emulate them. Racists, Pedos, lgbt-phobes don't need a platform or to have their opinions elevated or taken seriously.

I wouldn't think a top university's physics department is improved by devoting classes and curriculum to flat earth or 7-day creationism. Likewise, I don't think a forum or server is made better by allowing racists and bigots to have a safe space on it.

Of course, you have to decide what crosses the line, but welcome to real life. There's a difference between a hardcore neo-nazi who thinks Jews and black folks are literal sub-humans, and your 87 year-old grandpa who unironically calls the employees at his favorite asian buffet, "Chinamen."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I have been banned twice from .ml just for mentioning that Russia shot down a civilian airplane in Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 38 minutes ago

Can't really speak to specifics. I'll just say that there are definitely posts on .ml news and commentary communities that go against the typical views of many .ml members, and they are left up by the mods and allowed to be discussed and debated.

Every community has censorship, it's a spectrum. But that's what I love about the federation model and FOSS in general. There are always different communities with different focuses and standards, something for everybody. And still we all have the freedom to block content we don't want to see or support.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

In general communities it's ok here but in global events it's easy to see in the modlog that certain topics which are not favorable for Socialist-In-Name-Only are hidden very fast.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 58 minutes ago

I haven't checked the log, but I get my news from several different sources, Lemmy is only one of them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

I haven't really had any bad experiences with .ml communities or users. I consider myself a Marxist actually. I mostly saw the China, Russia, and North Korean dick sucking on Reddit. I remember someone on Reddit actually arguing that leftists should use Redstar OS (North Korean Linux distro designed to spy on its users) because its made by a socialist country that cares about its people. Guess that's why they're executed for stealing bread. I'm sorry about your instances bad reputation, I really haven't seen it. Besides, there are assholes in every community.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm happy with my instance, no complaints!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Is it because you are free to talk strange? Or is it because you don't talk strange?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don't generally say hateful things, so no risk of being censored for that, and I like that my instance doesn't censor anything that could possibly be considered a slur the way .ml does.

I was originally on .ml and I remember seeing a comment that had a legitimate use of a word that could be considered a slur in another context. I don't remember the exact scenario, but it was something equivalent to saying "response time retardation" in relation to drunk driving. And "retardation" was censored, which created unnecessary confusion. I'd been thinking of switching instances anyway, and that silly little example is what pushed me over the edge. I guess I'd rather not be cushioned from every word that might be hurtful, especially when doing so can cause confusion.

No hate or disrespect to .ml, by the way - I'm very grateful to Dessalines and crew for creating lemmy and Jerboa, and I respect their right to administer their instance the way they see fit. To me that's the neat thing about the fediverse - it allows for a "different strokes for different folks" approach. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah the exact thing you described happened here as well, it's a tiny bit annoying although not enough for me to switch instances over

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been thinking about switching over to lemmy.today as it's not currently defederated with anyone, so I can decide who to block and keep for myself. It's based in Oregon, and I like the idea of joining an instance close to me. I do worry about Lemmy.world being so overly dominate in the federated-lemmy-space.

But many of the communities that I participate in are lemmy.world, and it's nice that they send me an automated notice whenever a post/comment of mine is removed. I've already subscribed to many communities and would have to do that all over again. and I haven't thought of a creative new username.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

You can use the same username since they're unique per instance. I had the same one on Lemmy.world

[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I run my own instance, so supremely displeased as expected.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

literally me

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm happy with Lemmy.ml. I feel like moderation is taken seriously here and that is a very good thing. I don't care for "free speech" that provides a platform for immoral points of view. For example, I do not need to consider the opinions of racists or Nazis. I've heard them plenty and there is no redeeming value in their speech. It is a settled debate. Anyone who doesn't understand that deserves your suspicion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Also on .ml and agree. Nazi shit on an instance makes it unusable as far as I'm concerned.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

.ml rocks. I know people are upset when tankies post walls of text but it's their space to. I just wish they could live how they want, same as I do. Even if we want very different things in life. Want some get some.

You don't have to craft a PhD dissertation any time they reply to you. Just move on to the next shit post. Some feel obligated, and that's your perogative. I have to many part time jobs to reply to everyone here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Our informative well-sourced arguments, their propagandistic walls of text

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm very comfortable on the .ml instances where I participate, mostly reading, commenting much less because I'm still learning and considering perspectives that I was heavily propagandized to reject. My questions are answered, my thoughts are challenged, and sometimes I have to chew on that for awhile. Other thoughts it seems are "we won't know until we know," and I'm okay with that. It's not always comfortable, it's very often uncomfortable, but I feel it's necessary for my personal development as a human being. I don't know everything, no one can, but I'm willing to consider perspectives that were once foreign and/or shunned by myself. It's not even necessarily that I automatically believe everything I read, more that I'm working to suspend disbelief in order to gather and consider more data. Iow, the older I get and more I understand, the more I realize how much I don't know and understand.

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