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[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago

And Congress knew and knows about others yet they think that they should still be the ones leading our representative government.

Why are these people living on the people ?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The GOP is full of rapists, and it's nothing new.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago

I think it's a perfect time to realize that there are perverts on both sides of the aisle, and neither aisle cares about their constituents.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So uh... why haven't "we" like... convicted and jailed him?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

Trump...same. Elon...same.

Pretty much anyone at the very top of government now...same.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Hahaha you expect politicians to hold themselves accountable!? That would take things like integrity and honesty. You know honor, that thing the we just voted to kill forever.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, like, what the fuck? Don’t the rest of us go to jail if we do this?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Well yeah but we're not born rich to the ruling class. Our fathers and grandfathers weren't Senators like Mattys were.

Rules for thee, not for me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How could he possibly not? How could people look at him and think he wouldn't? The dude FUCKING looks like some sort of evil villain. That or a Dollar Tree Beavis.

I knew about this years ago. You knew about it. Our neighbors knew about. But still we gotta go through this wishy washy bullshit from those who are supposed to be leaders saying that this is all suddenly "coming to light". Fuck no it isn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Fetal Alcohol syndrome evil Elvis is who I see but Dollar Tree Beavis is pretty spot on too

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So he is qualified. Only Rapists are allowed in.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Seriously, it wasn't even as lite as the titile makes it out to be.

"Gaetz did drugs while paying a child who hadnt even made it to her final year of high school while serving as a GOP representative and the GOP covered for him" would be more accurate

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

"Matt Gaetz does Republican shit." would've been accurate.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

That finger gonna be wore down soon bubba

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Paragon of conservative virtues and former leading figure of elected government officials, everyone.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Fixed: Matt Gaetz, former Trump AG pick, ha~~d sex with~~ raped an underage girl while in Congress, House Ethics report says

A minor cannot consent.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In Florida a 17 year old can consent.

Matt Gaetz being older than 24 is the illegal part. He groomed a young girl.

Also, because he paid her, then the offense involves the procurement of a person who is under 18 years of age, so the charge increases to a second degree felony, which can result in up to 15 years of imprisonment, a fine of up to $10,000, or both.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it only costs $10,000 to do that then it's only illegal for poor people

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Welcome to America.

Where "Speeding fine" has totally opposite meanings depending on how rich you are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

I like the Swiss and Finnish laws for speeders. The fine is based on your income.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No she couldn't consent to anyone over 24, which he was. Also, I would have to play catch-up, but if this is one of the girls he flew to New Jersey to have sex with... It's sex trafficking a minor right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think consent is the wrong word here. A 17 year old can consent to a subgroup of people (under 24). Therfore she is above the age of consent.

The girl has full control over her decisions but, more importantly, should not be charged with any crime.

Gaetz on the other hand ...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Consent is tied to legality. You can consent to a credit card at 18 but not 17.

I can tell someone it's fine to punch me in the face, and you could call that consent. When the person next door sees it out the window and calls the police, they show up and will arrest them. Both parties say they approved of it and no one wants to press charges. Tough shit, if they follow the law they arrest the person, charges for assault are placed against the person who punched by the State it happened in.

The "victim" who thinks they consented can tell the state prosecutor they don't want there to be charges when they get a subpeno to show in court.

So did I ever actually give consent? No... I never had legal right to at any age.

(There are some loop holes in a few states, and ways to get out of it, but you get the point)

Note: This is a another huge example of how laws are broken and ignored by companies and people with money as well. An NFL contract may list that consent was placed to be hit during a tackle, but when a play is over and someone intentionally kicks someone in the ribs, slams someone's head down into the ground again or hits a player the league "fines them or suspends them" but they are criminal charges so they should be out in front of a judge. Why would they be exempt from the law.

Fun example: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CgjAN_wgmiI

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

har aped

Brutal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I don't know about this case, I can definitely imagine him raping that girl.

But from a European perspective, saying minors cannot consent is definitely one of these very stupid US takes. It is honestly insane that in the US 18 is treated like a god, and if one partner is some months older, it's illegal.
Obviously, minors can generally be influenced more easily than older people, and it's important to have safeguards in place, but such a statement is just genuinely ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s not the case in this scenario, and rarely is. It varies by state, but Romeo and Juliet laws are common, which cover these kinds of circumstances.

Basically, the law will set an acceptable age gap where consent can happen; If the gap is 5 years, then a 17 year old won’t be able to consent to sex with a 30 year old, but can with an 18-22 year old. So it helps maintain the “this is obviously a child who was groomed by a creepy middle-aged person” statutory rape laws, while still allowing kids to date each other.

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 2 days ago (5 children)

... had sex with an underage girl...

So, rape? Underage people can't consent, it's rape. He's a pedophile.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yup. The report specifically found he violated FL statutory rape law, among other laws, but headlines continue to not call it what it is.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (3 children)

America's willingness to elect pedophiles/rapists to the highest positions in their country is... baffling. To then have their news not even use those words just makes me worry so much for women in the US. Like seriously, 'sex with underage girl,' we have specific words for that. Embarrassing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's not baffling. Sad and terrible, but not baffling at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

As a non-American (Canadian), it's baffling to me. Our Conservatives have been quite horrific in many decisions (like refusing to admit climate change exists, for example), but I do actually think they would turn on one of their own who was a pedophile. Maybe not in a year or so, but for now, I do believe they would. To see people celebrate these monstrous things in their leaders is terrifying.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Yup. It’s a big club, and we ain’t in it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just look at religion for answers to that puzzle. The entire schtick is a manual for giving yourself and your friends easy outs from your constant and consistent bad behaviour

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Just look at religion for answers to that puzzle. The entire schtick is a manual for giving yourself and your friends easy outs from your constant and consistent bad behaviour

I guess that could be why; up here in Canada it's political suicide to be openly religious (though I think the Cons will change their tune on that next election.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

Stranger things have happened

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[–] [email protected] 191 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The correct phrasing is raped. He raped a child.

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