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In comparison to many other series that have come in this era (because we all love to compare!), the stakes are as profound as any that we’ve seen, but with a particular character driven twist that I hope will surprise and delight people who watch the movie.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

I'm sure it'll be fun and I'm always glad to have more trek.

Two things concern me, first every person we've met previously from section 31 has been an asshole. Intentional writing to make them them an organization working against the ideals of the federation. Will that make it harder for me to like the characters or their missions? I am unsure if I want to relate better to them.

The second is that universe ending stuff has little emotional impact on me, it's unimaginable to me especially with the CGI required to visualize it. Episodes always hits me harder when it's a planet, a species, a special person or some mystery to be discovered.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

the stakes are as profound as any that we’ve seen

That's not a selling point. I'm truly tired of the world ending all the time. What's wrong with smaller more personal stakes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Srsly. What happened to, "oh, what an interesting planet, let's explore it..."?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A mild counterpoint, because I totally get where you're coming from:

Section 31 is probably the one setting that should be high stakes, all the time. Like them or not, this is kind of what they do.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You are both right, which is part of why this whole concept is dull. How many times can they threaten to destroy all universes ever?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

At least once more, as always.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Canonically it's 47

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I agree it's overused for the average episode of Trek, but if we accept that they're doing a Section 31 movie, what's the point of a low-stakes feature film (even a streaming film), especially one centered around Section 31?

Also worth noting that the article describes it as "Big stakes emotionally, big stakes for the characters in our story", so the "stakes" are referring at least in part to character stakes, not necessarily universe-ending stakes. (Though I admit in practice it will probably be both.)

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago

It's going to suck so hard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Smaller more personal stakes" doesn't mean something will be good, either!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never mentioned good or bad.
I don't really care if something is "good or bad". I only care if I like it or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ok sorry, where I'm from saying you are "truly tired" of something implies you think it's bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This makes me think that the flashbacks to Georgiou's childhood seen in the trailers might be directly related to the main plot, rather than something that's just there to provide character insight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh god not childhood flasbacks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Honestly, if there's one character whose upbringing I'd like to see, it's this one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The tagline is “Tasked with protecting the United Federation of Planets, she also must face the sins of her past.” In Section 31? She wasn't specifically recruited because her morals are aligned to Section 31? She won't be engaging in the mission of Section 31?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I'll let Luther Sloan take this one.

We search out and identify potential dangers to the Federation...we deal with them.

They certainly believe they're protecting the Federation.