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At McDonald's, I saw that their sweet tea comes from a plastic bag inside a metal container, which stays in there all day. That doesn’t seem sanitary. Then I found out some places, like Olive Garden, heat soup in plastic bags by putting them in hot water. Isn’t this like leaving a water bottle in a hot car, where plastic leaches into the liquid? How is this okay? Like, I feel like that would be so explicitly illegal in other countries. Taking a big plastic bag of soup and just throwing it in water for the plastic to obviously separate from the bag and be intermingled with the food...

It sounds a lot like poison, like it's literally poisonous. Like how is this okay in the USA?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

You're worried about a little plastic in a beverage with (probably) 50g added sugar? 2g of sodium and 40g fat but a little microplastic puts you off the soup?

Get a grip, honestly.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (4 children)

Remind me to not get you a Sous Vide kit for chistmas.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

companies are very averse to lawsuits, so they will toe the line of what is legal. the FDA is supposed to maintain what is legal or not based on safety, but conservatives in this country are always trying to blur those rules for monetary gain.

that said, with regards to plastics there are many 'food-grade' plastics designed for these specific use cases.

id be curious of what other countries are more strict when it comes to the FDA. I've seen it about on-par with other 1st world nations. theres always a bit of differentiation when it gets to some specifics, but overall the US is better off than 95% of the planet.

now with the orange turd back in office, i suspect that will drop precipitously as they dismantle important organizations like the FDA and the department of education.

your ignorance of chemistry does not mean there are no standards.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

McDonald's itself is poison.

Fun thing I learned recently: You know that pigs' feed is made with whole bags of expired bread that are ground up? It's too expensive in labor to take the bread out of the bag so they're ground up, plastic and all. You think that doesn't make it's way into the meat that we eat?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

Some plastics are more stable than others. That said, we are admittedly far too lackadaisical with them in general.

To answer your direct question, we do have an FDA that does a passable job with some things, salmonella outbreaks, emergency vaccine development, stuff like that. There is probably some regulatory capture at play, though, where business interests get their people appointed into oversight roles. When a full half of our government is so vocally and rabidly pro-business, this is difficult to prevent in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Food company profits are more valuable than human life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Probably not collectively but for the people making these decisions it is.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

There's also an "acceptable risk" that companies will take. Not sure about food service, but I have been in meetings where 5% of customers fucked over is considered acceptable, with the dollar figures that follow. They probably take into account the total number of lawsuits they get for poisoning people, and the cost of the impact to the bottom line via lawsuits and bad marketing versus actually fixing the issue.

For example, if 10,000 people get food poisoning a year from iced tea, probably only a small percentage of those people will trace it back to McDonald's iced tea WITH tangible proof. It might be easier to pay for those lawsuits than actually fixing the issue. They'll pass some kind of memo out, showing they addressed the issue, and then blame the store management. Nothing really changes.

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