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Not sure if this is the correct place to post, but I just wanna kinda rant a bit.

I'm not the only one that hates this, right?

An app can just do a "This App Does Not Allow Screenshots"? Like... wtf?

Like, its my phone, and some app can just decide to disable a fuction of my phone. It's my phone and if I wanna take a screenshot, I'm taking a screenshot. I don't care about whatever "security" the app developer wants.

Imagine if every online shopping app whether fast food or amazon, just used this to block you from taking a screenshot so you can't save the records in case of a dispute.

Which android developer thought it was a good idea to let an app disable a function on your phone. Even iPhone doesn't have this stupid concept.

Sorry for the rant.

Anyone wanna share your stories?

(P.S. I have a cheap secondary phone to take photos of the screen. "This App Does Not Allow Screenshots" my ass lmao, I'm taking the screenshot whether the app wants it or not.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I hate this "feature" of the Dexcom GCM app. They seem to believe that HIPPA law prevents me from sharing my glucose readings with anyone I choose to.

To send readings to people, I can't screenshot the app but I can screenshot the notification which contains the same info 🀷🏼

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Yep, same with the-shitty ass Kaiser Permanente app, which itself is just a webview wrapper around the crappy kp.org website. I cannot screenshot my test results, or any other screen within the app, but I can go to the same-ass page in my browser and take my screenshot from the website.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Aaaah! I'm so frustrated by this BS. Its MY phone. It should be MY choice.

Switching to GrapheneOS soon, and if the bank app(s) don't work, too bad. I'll use a (Linux) computer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

GOS does allow taking screenshots, but they come out to be an empty black image.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

GOS allows that to be bypassed?

Well fuck me, I wanna use Samsung Tags to track my cat, so can't really get a Pixel to use GOS.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago

Soooo... Any Magisk module that allows one to bypass this?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I fuckin hate that Playstation 4 and 5 do this for taking screenshots from movies. I just want to get a good screen grab for meme purposes! Do you think I'm going to screen shot every goddamn frame of a movie, one at a time, paste those back together as a video, then somehow rip the audio too, and then share this necromantically-assembled abomination with all my pirate buddies? Fuck you!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Now that is really stupid, especially given how easy it is to just fire up the movie on your PC and take a screenshot from there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Netflix does this on windows too

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

I was able to use snipping tool to take screenshots when I had Netflix, but I also used it through my browser.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

There's an option in Developer options that'll allow to bypass that setting

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

What option is that? And which Android version?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago

Not sure what OS you are using. Are you using Graphene OS or something like that.

I'm on One UI (Samsung Variant of Android) and I just check through every row on Developer options, the only thing remotely related was an option that allows apps to overlay over the "Settings" app, which still wouldn't bypass an app specific restriction.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

I work for a company that builds an app /sdk that handles credit cards / payments. It's one of the (many) requirements for getting an industry standard certification (like PCIDSS / MPOC). The app Must block screenshots, and Must disable the camera while using it...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

What on earth are those in charge of certification standards thinking they'll achieve with requirements like this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

The same functionality that you use to take screenshots can be hijacked by bad actors to get access to your stuff. It's especially bad if they can see your MFA apps or other sensitive info.

Not saying the functionality is always used for the best of intentions, but there are many situations where I see it as necessary.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 12 hours ago

It's probably to stop third party apps from screenshoting the banking app.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Accidentally screenshotting your bank acct and routing number is the only one I can really think of.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Or your "time clock earth sounds" app from the not so well policed appstore takes silent background screenshots, grayscales them and sends them to their host for OCR.

I agree this permission is annoying. But I differ in I feel it should be system controlled and can be invoked by apps that identify specific fields to be blocked, instead ofnjusy disabling it outright.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Not sure how this is relevant, these numbers are routinely shared with clients and suppliers.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

The point of many of android's "protection" features isn't to protect the user from apps, but to protect apps from the user. I hate it.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

In this case, I think it's protecting apps from other apps. No secret screen recording going on while you're looking at bank statements, etc. I find that annoying, too, but I'm less annoyed by the reasoning in this case.

Now if Google could explain why toggling wifi through Tasker requires root, I would LOVE to hear the reasoning...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (5 children)

In this case, I think it's protecting apps from other apps. No secret screen recording going on while you're looking at bank statements, etc.

I think with all the engineers at Google developing Android they could come up with a solution of how to discern whether the act of screenshot was triggered solely by the user, or an app on the phone. They are the ones in power of all the APIs that allow other apps to capture the screen content in the first place. Maybe I am simplifying it too much, but this seems as a bad excuse to me.

Maybe it would be too hard of a solution since there's so many ways third party apps could capture screen content (including for example the Android accessibility service which also allows apps to read content of the screen and even simulate screen touches and gestures which many automation apps make use of) that blocking the screenshot alltogether is by far the most feasible solution.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Or changing or just adding a system font.

Or setting a charge capacity limit.

Or adding separate quick access tikes for wifi and cellular.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Being able to block screenshots is "supposed" to protect users from having malware take screenshots of banking apps and other such information.

If app developers were good, this could have been a good feature.

But I agree with OP. It still should be the user's choice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

My Banking App does have the option to disable this feature.

It's all fine if it's a user choice, very annoying if it's not.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago

"Protections" are fine, as long as there's an override for it.

User doesn't like potential malware from "sideloading"? Then don't enable "Install from Unknown Sources".

Same thing with everything else, there should be an override switch.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

I understand that for security compliance reasons. But beyond that, yupp. It sucks.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I like that it's possible, but I think it should be treated like a permission with a user accessible toggle in settings for each app.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

I would like to see the same thing for clipboard read access. In the same way app has to prompt you for location permission it would have to prompt you to read the clipboard and you would actually have the option to allow it all the time which is handy for some apps like clipboard manager, or don't allow it alltogether which is handy for some random apps you don't trust.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It’s a really good feature imo and I’d love to see it be more common. This is how iOS does it:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

It could be nice, but also annoying in some cases. I would at least want to have an option to allow all the time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Oh yea, something needs to be done about the clipboard. It's unsettling to know that a random app can just get your clipboard. Sometimes bitwarden doesn't detect a password field for some reason so I have to copy it to the clipboard πŸ˜– don't feel safe...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Does it have a virtual keyboard?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Not as far as I know.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

I believe Bitwarden has a setting to β€œwipe” the clipboard after some time.

Not perfect, but better

[–] [email protected] 39 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

That's nothing. My workplace disabled copy/paste on everyone's work iPhones completely. Not in their own apps but system wide. Apparently that's something ios allows them to do. Doesn't affect me much because I use the phone as a glorified dual auth token but some people have it as their primary phone.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

work iPhones

some people have it as their primary phone.

Bruh, I have no idea how people can put up with their employer being able control their device. Like... the employer can freak out about some perceived "security breach" and decide to wipe everyone's phone and you lose all your data like photos. Also, their employer can see if they are shit talking about the employer or mangement people, and it's a terrible idea if they want to unionize.

[–] Dhs92 7 points 15 hours ago

As an IT guy that manages MDMs, no we cannot see communications on the device

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

I have never heard of copying and pasting being disabled in iOS. I’m sorry, but this claim is dubious.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 15 hours ago

I agree that it's infuriating! I downloaded an LSPosed module called CaptureSposed that overrides it.

It shouldn't take a specific module hack on a rooted phone with a custom OS with an unlocked bootloader to get this functionality back.

[–] 0x0 24 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Like, its my phone, and some app can just decide to disable a fuction of my phone.

Is it your phone though?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

iPhone absolutely has this concept

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