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Texas National Guardsman allegedly shoots across U.S. border wounding man in Mexico
(www.cbsnews.com)
That is quite literally an act of war.
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An act of war is only such if the other side recognises it as such.
So if Mexico decide to see this has an isolated incident that can sorted out with some phone calls and hand wringing then it 'quite literally' isn't.
And of course that's what going to happen. To the point where it's not even worth mentioning that war will happen. In short, a rediculous comment.
No…”An action that would justify the initiation of hostilities against the perpetrator”
Mexico could use this event to justify war against the US. As you say, they will not — but they could if they wanted.
if they were completely nuts sure
Could you imagine the actual amount of ass kicking Mexico would receive of they declared war on the US?
Well, probably not. The US might just fortify its border with troops and material and try to talk them down. All while blasting anything that comes across the border.
Alamo 2 has a ring to it though
America went to war with Mexico when Mexico tried to enforce its border at the Nueces River which is north of the Rio grande. The US recognized the Rio grande (the current border). It started the Mexican-American war
Border incidents are always tense. Especially when the governor of said state, along with current presidential candidates, are calling for militarization of the border to protect from "invasion".
Surely you see the difference there though. An official position versus an individual with no authority committing a crime. It's only an act of war to the most sensationalist.
Yeah I wasn't trying to equate them. Just showing that border incidents can escalate quickly and that it has already happened between these two.
That is quite literally an act of ~~war~~ FREEDOM, YEEEHAWW.
America sucks. We are a gold plated garbage country of sociopathic owners and battered spouse peasants.
That said, no one wants to fuck with the war machine we maintain in lieu of funding the well-being of our society.
For context, there are 11 nuclear powered aircraft carriers on Earth, arguably the most potent Warfare platform Mankind has ever developed.
10 of those 11 are American. France has 1. Our supposed greatest threats are still rocking diesel powered junk.
An act of stupid
Isn't that what the Republicans want?
If this happened as described the person who did this should be handed over for trial in Mexico. Which isn't going to happen. Maybe the Mexican government should send their army to the border to protect their citizens.
If this happened as described, it's an overt act of war and Mexico is within its rights to invade the US, if it had the capability.
No it's not.
It might have been an accidental firing, it may have been some retard racist, it may have been twenty other things. Either way, two friendly neighbours that need each other's economies would not and should not start murmuring about war over relatively small incidents like these.
Yes, it hugely sucks for the victim and the US should financially pay for everything but that is what you have diplomats for.
It would be a casus belli, but it won't actually result in war. There's a difference. No matter what the situation, unless the US gives the shooter over to Mexico, it's a perfectly justified casus belli, just a useless one because there is no way that's happening and more diplomatic ways to handle it.
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No. That's not at all right. Accidents happen, no two countries are going to go to war over one random person accidentally shot.
It isn't going to lead to a nice conversation, but that doesn't mean it could (or should) lead to a war.
Well no. A single dumbass soldier has never been a casus belli.
I mean... Archduke Franz Ferdinand was killed by a single man
And that war is one of the first examples always brought up of needless war in an era of rich people looking for glory as a distraction from boredom and a way to gain social rank.
Not really a great example for this considering the refrain after was "never again".
I wasn't really making any larger point or comment about it.
Just saw your comment about a single dumbass never starting a war, and thought of good ol' Gravilo Princip.
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i hate texas
I was wondering how long it would be before Texas stopped recognizing Mexican sovereign territory. I'm surprised it's taken this long.
Taken this long? Texas exists because they don't give a shit about what belongs to Mexico.
This is not the first cross border shooting.
Sadly, it's pretty common. The Conservatives of the US Supreme Court even weighed in on one of them and said it was a-okay to murder a kid across the border.
No sports allowed! Only war
Oh wow we're getting a sequel to a few good men now?
I guess we'll have to give Texas back to Mexico as reparations... We sure won't miss it.
For those wanting more about Border Patrol killings:
Similarly, the actions of CBP officers also affect the number of migrant deaths. The CBP Office of Professional Responsibility reported that 151 CBP-related deaths occurred in FY 2021. This figure includes migrant deaths that occur in CBP custody as a result of use of force by a CBP officer and vehicle collisions that occur during active pursuit by the CBP, among other causes.
In June of 2022, the CBP reported a use of force incident that resulted in the death of one individual. Migrant deaths that resulted after high-speed chases by the CBP in 2022 have been documented in Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas.
These incidents are currently being investigated by Homeland Security Investigations.
However, the comprehensiveness of CBP data has been scrutinized by the GAO, which stated in April of 2022 that “Border Patrol has not collected and recorded, or reported to Congress, complete data on migrant deaths, or disclosed associated data limitations.”
https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-die-crossing-the-us-mexico-border/
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I guess, it's time for Round 2 for Mexico and the US.
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