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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Honestly, the title confused me slightly—wasn't sure if it was about a workstation PC, GPU, ARM based microserver, gaming laptop or what. 24 GB of RAM and 240 W charging seem completely ridiculous for a phone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope one day they make phone with this great specs but with ui that is actually smooth and good

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Can't have good phones without some bloatware and spyware on the side ;)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have a genuine question.

My wife’s MacBook Air has 8gb of ram, my desktop has 16gb of ram.

Why do phones need so much ram?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

currently, they don't, but the mobile operating systems do heavily cache applications in ram and those applications are getting pretty heavy, so instead of accessing bulk storage every time you launch an app, they are pretty much all sleeping in a low-cpu state with most of their content pre-loaded into ram.

Makes them snappier to switch apps and such, particularly with image or video heavy apps that want to be able to preload pages and pages of content to mindlessly scroll through while the internet connection loads more in the background.

Windows and MacOS has started doing a bit more of this, but still gets by with less ram as you tend to have a more powerful CPU and faster storage to not worry about an extra fraction of a second to switch between apps, but 0.5 seconds to switch apps on a phone can feel slow because we humans are simple dumb creatures with zero patience.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@worfamerryman @FragmentedChicken android is less memory efficient, because Java in lots of scenarios basically allocates the double of the memory that it needs for performance reasons. However, android with 6 or 8 GB is fine for 99% of users. 24 GB is nuts, and it's probably just for gaming.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In case you are a machine learning researcher or engineer who wants to do WFP (Work-From-Phone). /s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can’t wait until phones can be docked to act as desktops.

I know Samsung Dex does this, but my understanding is that it’s not really well supported.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Infinix Note 30 has an option where when plugging the charger and using the phone at the same time electricity would be used to feed the phone directly, instead of charging the battery (since charging the battery (33w fast charge) while using the phone causes it to heat and lose from its life) thus it stays cool during simultaneous usage and charging: now one could do work on a plugged phone without the risk of ruining the battery

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Because it runs Java and tons of bloatware plus a ton of spywar. Ah also, it needs a ton of adware too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Holy Jebus, that is the absolute most bleeding edge phone I have ever seen, and it costs less than a Pixel 7a...

But agree with others that the software is a deal breaker. Loading this up with stock android would be a much better experience, but of course with roms there is a price to pay in terms of stability and compatibility.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's... so much memory? my pixel has 12GB and that seems excessive to me. I'm used to iPhones and their running incredible on like 6GB lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While native android apps tend to have higher memory usage compared native ios apps, 24GB seems overkill, especially for realme as their version of android is pretty aggressive killing background tasks to reduce power usage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Idk why but this reminds me of the OnePlus 10.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Realme belongs to Oppo which belongs to the same parent company as OnePlus (BBK). They share a lot of technology and often OnePlus phones are really just rebranded Oppo phones.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably because Oppo owns both Realme and OnePlus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah that's true

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's the green colour

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Plus the camera bump

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

24gig ? thats probably with swap enabled (like all chinese phones, false advertizing). any rooted phone with enabled swap could help extend the ram this much too. heck there s a paid app that could enables limitless swap using any class 10 sd card. also 120w would only make since if it would charge a 10k mAh battery or something.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's real, many models are being announced with 24GB since June.

And in terms of bandwidth, your SD card swap versus UFS 4.0 is quite literally like comparing walking versus highway speeds.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it uses internal storage as swap, thats ofc way quicker. but u know what quicker ? real lpddr ram. if its 24 gig lpddr ram then i am all in :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's RAM. I'm just saying how stupid it would be to use the SD card as swap.