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Greetings, fellow digizens of the self-hosted world. I've spent considerable time pondering the relationship between Open Source and Anarchy.

As a coder and an enthusiast of decentralized systems, I often see Open Source as a haven of freedom and self-governance, a space where hierarchy dissolves into a shared ownership of ideas and creations. This brings to mind the principles of Anarchy, where power is decentralized and the collective rules.

But let's be honest. Sometimes, Open Source feels more like a wannabe rock star, a lot of hype with a record deal that doesn't quite hit the right notes.

It led me to wonder: Is the parallel I draw between Open Source and Anarchy a fair one, or is it a misplaced association?

If this is too far off-topic, just let me kniw and I shall remove it!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great conversation topic. Although it might be in the wrong community.

I do feel there are shared values when it comes to many open source projects and the concepts of anarchy. As anti-capitalists, Anarchists usually believe in so form of "open source", where resources, goods and services are freely given to participates in the project.

That being said, many open source projects are hierarchically organized. And thus not following an anarchist model. Take grapheneos for example. Open source project, great software, Lead dev was toxic af.

They recently stepped down as head of the project( almost certainty for the better.) But I wonder what the impact of him stepping down will have on the project and if a more horizontal organization stategy would have prevented the toxic situation from occuring.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought it may have been in the wrong place - I'll work on keeping future posts more in-line with the community.

That's a great point re: the hierarchical model still commonly used within Open Source projects!

I had no idea the GrapheneOS Dev was toxic, which seems such a shame as its ths OS for my daily phone. I will be watching that space very closesly!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Check out [email protected] This would be a great topic for that community.

which seems such a shame as its ths OS for my daily phone. I will be watching that space very closesly

Me as well. Its awesome software.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Check out [email protected] Thank you for pointing me to the right community!

It is amazing software, any extra information you may have regarding it (or potential replacements if it, sadly, falls apart); I'm all ears!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I dont think its gonna fall apart. I thibk there is a bright future for Grapheneos.

But calyxos is also very good. Not as secure/private but it is more user friendly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

**decentralization, collaboration, and the empowerment of individuals. **

Allowing anyone to inspect and modify the code promotes accountability and enables customization to meet specific needs andan anarchist society promotes decentralization and self-governance. It envisions a society without hierarchical structures of power, where individuals have the freedom to make decisions collectively and autonomously.

voluntary cooperation, mutual aid, and direct action

Both open source software and an anarchist society share a commitment to community-driven collaboration. They prioritize the idea that power and knowledge should be distributed among the people rather than concentrated in the hands of a few. Both emphasize the importance of individual autonomy and the rejection of centralized authority.

I think there’s significant overlap however

differences

While open source software operates within the existing legal frameworks and capitalist systems, an anarchist society envisions a radical transformation of those systems. Anarchism strives for a society where power is decentralized and decision-making is based on consensus, direct participation, and voluntary cooperation.

That’s not to say they don’t influence one another…

Both offer alternative approaches that aim to empower individuals and foster a more inclusive and participatory society.