it probably chaps Trump's ass that this has gotten so much more attention than his assassination attempt
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Attempts are boring. If he really wanted attention he should have committed.
All the Maga voters I know have been pretty supportive of the killer, despite the irony that they voted for privatized healthcare.
They haven't been told what to think yet. That's what's happening now.
Wait until their demigod speaks on the matter...
They fear "Government death panels". I wonder how they rationalize a "for profit, private death panel" being any better.
Socialism
I tend to forget the impact of 7 decades of rabid anti-socialism propaganda Americans have been bombarded with. They are not going to think "Sweden" but "Stalinist USSR instead".
It doesn't matters who it benefits, it's the naughty word so it's bad. Keep voting for the leopards.
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MAGA? Luigi is a right winger
I haven't read his manifesto or anything but he seemed pretty much against fossil fuels and insurance companies, what are we basing his political association on?
Oh man, bro was reposting Peter Thiel lmao. You're correct, Phoneymouse, good link.
A part of me envies him for still being able to appreciate Hulk Hogan despite how awful a person he is.
So no.
No right winger is going out and following AOC or saying the stuff he did in his manifesto.
At worst he was a bit of a tech bro. Honestly he sounds like a shitlib that finally got radicalised into a leftist.
His twitter reposted a right wing Billionaire, the one that paid to have Hulk Hogan go on stage and ask people to vote for Donald Trump. He's also made a lot of statements about the Unabomber and been anti-immigration in the past.
Maybe instead of assigning him to a group we should all agree he wasn't of calm or consistent mind.
Did you watch the video? It’s like a 20 second clip of the guy saying lots of tech people are neurodiverse and thus don’t allow their dreams to be crushed. It’s simplistic bullshit, but resharing it seems pretty centrist as it’s not rwnj content.
And fuck no? I consider this man one of the most sane, and he calmly planned and worked hard to achieve a noble goal.
In particular, he really emphasized remorse about any collateral damage and took significant steps to minimize it. His statement about the unibomber was essentially "Good motive but horrible execution that hurt a lot of innocents"
In his attack there was a nearby bystander who saw literally everything and he neither harmed her nor appeared to threaten her in any direct manner. He moved to pass her so she could flee.
I still think murder=bad but he took real steps to make sure the only damage from his actions was on the CEO and himself.
Or maybe he just didn’t give a shit about any of that and was just really pissed off at health insurance companies, felt that all representation had failed us, and the only solution left was violence
But people will read an article that has barely any info and jump to wild conclusions based on pure speculation to categorize him on one of the “teams” rather than assume he is one of the vast amount of politically apathetic individuals that make up america.
so tons of the right wing will move to paint him as a leftist, because it’s simple with the lack of info available and the current rhetoric surrounding the event, because it is advantageous to them. the left wing will move to distance themselves because there is info available that casts doubt on his being a leftist and again it is advantageous for them to distance.
And while both spend time shitflinging away responsibility for this person, who never claimed either side, it will deflect from discussing the very real issue he exposed with his act: the health care system in this country is so fucked up that when it drives someone to murder an executive a huge amount of people cheer them on
As a leftist I’m not moving to distance my self from him whatsoever. That sounds more like a shitlib thing tbh.
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It's complicated. His politics doesn't seem to fit neatly in any box. If you wanted to pick out facts to paint him as too right wing for the right wing, you can do it. If you wanted to pick out other facts to paint him as the new coming of Weather Underground, you could do that, too. He's also at a time in his life where your politics can shift around a lot, so posts from just a few years ago may not reflect where he is now.
I can say one thing with certainty: he hates people who are worth hating.
He was a right winger 2 years ago, he retreated from social media etc for a long while, so it might not even reflect his current views.
And if it does? Well, then he'd be a right winger and would have done more for class struggle than I ever did, and most likely ever will. Still very much worthy of respect, even as I'd disagree with most of his views.
Even if he is, the right wing noise machine is trying to get out ahead of this. They don't want their base which is very prone to violence getting any ideas about who is really actively harming them (and it isn't POC, it isn't trans, it's not the left, it's not women...).
Trying to poison the right wing against someone who stood up for them and for all of us. And the sick thing is that it will work.
I went to r/conservative on Reddit just for fun and some of them are already flip flopping. Most are getting down voted to hell, but it was noticeable. But at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if it was bots trying to turn everyone against each other, as is tradition.
Most are waiting for marching orders from dear leader.
They will get them and fall in line for sure, but it does seem to take a bit longer than usually.
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Of course it will work. They are objectively terrible people that will openly celebrate any pain done to anyone, including themselves, if they just get to add one more ounce of hate to the world.
The elderly at my job all are rallied against the guy. Been trying to explain to them regardless of how they feel it's a lens into the public opinion.
Watching the media machines gears turn with this one are especially transparent.
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Snowflakes lol
After the headline-grabbing execution, questionable portions of the internet immediately began thirsting over images of the alleged killer while denouncing the corporate greed showcased by UnitedHealthcare and its peers.
Lol questionable.
Former Fox News host Megyn Kelly similarly slammed Mangione’s declaration on X writing, “His ‘lived experience’ is about to be punctuated by 3 squares a day and a fear of showering.”
Fuck you.
…with far-right political activist and former political correspondent for One America News Network Jack Posobiec writing on X: “There’s a reason the left supports murderers who shoot businessmen in the street.
“It’s a feature not a bug.”
You make it a feature.
After news on Mangione’s arrest came to light on Monday, Fox host Jesse Watters weighed in on the 26-year-old’s potential future in prison, claiming that he’s “not ready” and that he’s “gonna get annihilated.”
“I don’t think anyone’s ready [to go to prison],” Watters said on The Five. “This guy’s not ready. He’s way too soft. He’s gonna get annihilated on the inside, and good.”
“If he’s not gonna get the death penalty, maybe someone will do him justice behind bars,” he added. “That’s all I have to say about that.”
You get a fuck you too.
They are reflecting on the level of damage they've caused to society and it's clearly terrifying to them that using liberals as the scapegoat isn't always gonna cut it.
The left supports killing businessman in the streets.
The right supports killing babies in their cots.
and kids in their classrooms.
If the public reaction to his gets one potential school shooter to rethink their plans and instead shoot a single CEO, that's a net gain. Bonus points if they start talking about gun control and Democrats reply with "it's too soon to talk about that, thoughts and prayers. Maybe install litter boxes in board rooms?"
Maybe install litter boxes in board rooms?
"CROOKED LEFT FORCING CEOS TO BEND KNEE TO CATBOIS"
Sorry for making y'all horny at the prospect
Remember the cardinal rule of the right!
rape good, murder bad!
Of course.
Unless one is murdering an unhoused man of colour causing a disturbance. Of course.
"Well the only thing he did wrong was not rape the man while he was passed out before squeezing the last bit of life out of him"
Murdering miscarrying women by refusing them medical treatment is definitely a-okay. Supply-side Jesus loves that kind of murder.
rape good, murder bad!
Well, unless someone they don't like is murdered in prison, because that's just justice...
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Jesus, I didn't plan on reading and just these quotes alone get me. Fuck those people so hard.
“His ‘lived experience’ is about to be punctuated by 3 squares a day and a fear of showering.
It's interesting how many still casually "joke" about prison rape in this country. At least when it comes to male rape.
If he’s not gonna get the death penalty, maybe someone will do him justice behind bars
This kind of pairs with the rape stuff. There are an awful lot of very gross people that wish for rape AND murder to happen in prison. The idea of our system supposedly being about corrections is a complete farce as long as so many people like that are among us....
I don't give a shit.
Of course they would. They will be the “CEO’s” for the next couple years. Gotta squash it before it grows.
May their incompetency be their undoing
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Watter's assertion that:
"He’s gonna get annihilated on the inside, and good.”
Is probably bullshit. To have the balls to walk up and ice the 21st century version of a vampire will be huge in prison. They hate corporate America just as much as we do.
This guy is gonna be protected on the inside if he makes it there
I don't think it is outside the realm of possibility that corporate interests would find a way to get another prisoner/guard to kill him. I doubt it would even be that difficult for them. They have so much to offer to a group of people who have been deprived of most things. solidarity to a cause only goes so far when your life is just suffering.
They absolutely have a vested interest in demonstrating to the public that people who kill members of their class will face terrible repercussions.
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This guy seemed a little iffy in his background - I would think quite a few of the right are celebrating this guy. It would make sense the elitists are trying to pacify that bunch, and try to paint this guy as some kind of leftist, though...they probably don't want the base that has been groomed for violence to suddenly get ideas about a mass movement of vigilantes like this guy stalking and killing the billionaire class.
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