Jesus fuck. If this asshole gets rid of mail-in voting in Colorado...our voting system here is FANTASTIC.
The qons ruin every thing. They plan on making everyone miserable and breaking everything.
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If he really wants to standardize voting at the national level, I think this might actually backfire on the GOP in the long run. Mail-in voting and early voting is extremely popular across the political spectrum, while lazy ignorant old people, the life blood of the GOP for over fifty years, often don't carry ID or even know where theirs is.
Shutting down polling stations in democratic areas has been part of the disenfranchisement strategy to-date. I’m sure this policy is one step of a few to try and permanently take power…
'"f I win, you'll never have to vote again!"
-shitler
while lazy ignorant old people
Ignorant, yes, by definition. But voter turnout among registered Republicans has historically been pretty high - often higher than Democrats. There's a few breakdowns of this but I found this older analysis quite interesting: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/
And there's evidence that higher turnout benefited Republicans this year: https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-voter-turnout-republicans-trump-harris-7ef18c115c8e1e76210820e0146bc3a5
Too bad for him the constitution clearly states "the states shall decide" - which is why we have the hodgepodge patchwork bullshit we have now. So he may want to change it, but unless he actually does light the Constitution on fire, this is unlikely to go anywhere.
omm... the Republicans have the supreme court and are in the process of lighting the constitution on fire as we speak?
The constitution doesn't protect the people from the government. The constitution protects a government from the people.
When the government lights the constitution on fire, "We The People" are no longer restrained by its restrictions. We are free to establish a new constitution, with blackjack and hookers, and burn down the government established by the old, flaming constitution.
In elections where there needs to be a single winner so proportional representation does not work, how about this (already works in several EU countries):
Round 1: Anyone can participate if they have enough signatures. If anyone gets the majority vote, they automatically win and there is no round 2.
Round 2, 1 or 2 weeks later: Top 2 candidates from Round 1. No votes are carried over from Round 1. Popular vote wins.
RCV doesn't need 2 rounds for this. Neither does approval voting.
This is not a problem with voting that needs new ideas to address.
I thought Putin's Sock Puppet and his neo-Nazi supporters want to increase state rights. Getting rid of the Electoral College should be the first step.
Not those states rights.
Eliminate the Electoral College. None of this other crap.
Paper ballots are good
Who doesn't have paper ballots? The states that use a touch screen (e.g. Dominion) still has paper ballots. You just make your choices on the screen and print the ballot. You check that everything is accurate and insert the paper ballot in the counting machine.
Most local polling places around me have touch screens you put a small card into, but you never see a paper ballot, I’ve honestly never seen a paper ballot for presidential elections in person other than mail ins
We have the same screens with a card. Here you print out the paper ballot and put it in the counter. Never seen them without a paper ballot.
We just hand it to a poll worker and they do whatever they do with it
Ok, well, just change it to whatever we have here then. It's not a big deal and not everything is a conspiracy.
cuts out 80% of the elderly vote in one swift motion
cuts out unprepared idiots who don't know any better before they leave their house
There goes his voters.
Lmao good luck with that constitutional amendment, Donnie.
This half-baked nonsense is dead at conception because once again Republicans prove they don't understand government.
It's a shame that, despite not understanding government, they're about to have unfettered control of it.
The saving grace is that our federal government relies HEAVILY on state workers and agencies.
A lot of states can simply say no, or "yeah, we'll get around to it."
This is it folks. If he is able to transform our election system with his own two hands, we've had our last fair election, I guarantee it. Fraud will be baked in, circumventing any design elements that are ostensibly there to guard against it.
This is the scariest thing I've read since the election.
They weren't quiet about this being the last fair election we would have. I'm also not convinced it was actually a fair election.
But whatever...too late to bitch about the fascists now.
Well, to be fair, elections have always been biased with shit like this.
We never really had a 10/10 fair election, there has always been biases in favor of status quo / regressivism. It always took more than 51% of votes for the less regressive party to win. We're just regressing back to stupid election shenanigans like those 2000 florida ballots designed to confuse everyone. Shenanigans that had always existed, but we evolved out of, but now we are going through a period of regression, as the country has done many many times before.
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This is why he wants to do that.
they can also add rules to restrict the number of polling places, resulting in disproportionately long lines in cities where democrats live
Aren't rural people more republican leaning?
Often times yes, but they are in gerrymandered districts with adequate polling locations, plus they love to go out and vote for "their guy"
Aren’t rural people more republican leaning?
In some places only slightly. Like 55/45. So it would still affect Democrats.
Edit: I mention this because a lot of folks tend to assume rural areas are almost exclusively Republican and that's very far from the truth even in super red states.
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fuck that, mail in voting has done so much good and it's a prime step in stopping all this. if we had national mail in voting things would get better fast so no wonder they don't want it.
what would this mean for states that already do this
I think we all know what the party of small government and states rights thinks of states doing things they don’t agree with.
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But.. it's the states that run elections, not the federal government. This doesn't make any sense.
Don’t worry, I’m sure all the small government conservatives will stop this!
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I am forced to file taxes every year and being a US citizen fucks my ability to invest in the retirement plans here because they all end up being PFICs which the IRS heavily penalizes. Fuck you, you're not taking my rights away. Forcing me to travel to not only the US, but to the state where I'm registered is not OK as that is thousands of dollars and days to accomplish.
Something something constitution
Article I, Section 4, Clause 1:
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S4-C1-2/ALDE_00013577/
What was that about States rights?
Oh, yeah, they only matter when they do what you want.
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We told you stupid motherfuckers that stayed home, this would be the last legitimate election if Trump won. We're fucked.
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