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I've never been sentimental about a social media site but it's sad for me to see reddit so clearly killing itself. Pushshift is already banned and Apollo is soon to follow. Reddit will either pivot fully to a mainstream audience or die out. It's just sad for me to see it doing it to itself.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mourn what it was, yes.

There was a recent comment I read about how it's become this incredible resource for the most obscure tech issues and they were reluctant to delete their posts and accounts because they'd receive random messages of thanks years after a tech resource post was made.

And it's true. Reddit has become an invaluable resource for these kinds of things. Not only that, but it's one of the few places that exists on the web where cohesive and coherent discussions even exist. It was always the community and discussion that made reddit great and they want to turn it into yet another swipebait infested serotonin sponge. I sincerely hope lemmy can take its place, but there are going to be some major growing pains if we get big influx of "redfugees."

It almost makes me think that when something becomes such an enormous and invaluable public resource, there should be a legal compulsion to archive it before doing anything that will compromise its accessibility.___

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think, at a fundamental level the Reddit I am mourning isn't Reddit as it exists now, but perhaps how I imagine it did ten or so years ago, the so called "Early Days". We're all here now because Reddit at is now is unsustainable and actively hostile against it's users. The contradiction between the need for monetization of the userbase and the userbases disgust at being monetized. This isn't a recent occurrence but sometimes we need to get a bit of a kick to realize how bad its been, in retrospect.

I do know, as many fellow tech people do, whenever I have to look into a problem I haven't encountered before, appending "Reddit" to the search often leads me closer to an answer. I will miss that, as it had become so well indexed. Lemmy isn't there yet in terms of being indexed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In a way, I mourned for reddit a long time ago. I stumbled (literally, stumbleUpon'd) reddit way back before the great Digg migration, when it was still mostly a haven for techies. The site went through a great many changes. Some good, some bad, some just... different.

At some point it got a little much. I've known for a number of years that I was growing increasingly alienated from it. Part of it was the Nazis and Reddit's inability or unwillingness to deal with any of the hate and bots. Part of it was the pervasive meme / low effort image culture. Those things were always there, but there was a time it'd get you the stink eye and an annoyed upvote.

Besides Hackernews (which has always been full of a certain Silicon Valley type), there wasn't really too many places to go. I've just been kinda waiting in the funeral parlor, hoping a ride to something else would come while I mostly browse the niche subreddits.

It's my hope that this incident starts the seeds of old forum culture as expressed through multiple lemmys. That's a pretty ambitious hope, but still. It's well past the time for the big social media networks to break up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I am beginning to mourn what reddit was. Not what it is or what it is going to turn into.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit isn't so much killing itself as rather being killed for money.

This is why I hate capitalism. It ruins everything, including the planet and the future.

Pity we can't have a social media site that's a public service!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Run by who, your friendly neighborhood local government?

No thank you. I think Lemmy is great. Hopefully it catches on sufficiently for niche communities to really develop.

The fact that it's a teeny tiny bit more technical than reddit is a nice barrier against utter stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Governments are at least answerable to the people, or should be. Corporations are answerable to no one except their major stockholders.

As for the learning curve for Lemmy, I think that's been overemphasized. People can learn. And at the same time feedback from the increasing number of users will help the devs to smooth out the rough edges, making Lemmy easier to use.

I remember when practically nobody knew what the internet was. Now everybody's walking around with the internet in their pocket, using it all the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No I don’t mourn it, it became mainstream around 2014 and went downhill from there imv. The front page was full of rage politics and the comments became really toxic. Everyone got drowned out, spreading that audience across multiple sites might be a good thing in the end. End the hive mind

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm mourning the communities i found, but not reddit itself. Spez has been a turd forever. I saw him at a tech inclusion conf like 6-7 years ago and they knew then he was such a shit they didn't even allow questions from the audience. He said nothing useful and basically said "we keep the donald because both sides" and not so subtly that they keep everyone for add views.

He sucks ass and is only concerned about IPO and will likely just change the r/all to whatever is left and declare the IPO a victory as users bleed away.

Hoping to find more of my old communities around lemmy with hopefully less bigots.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah for sure. I was on reddit for 13 years, there were users I recognised by name, people I was friendly with, people I'd have intense debates with, many, many, many subreddits I loved.

But nothing lasts forever, and this place seems nice so here's to new beginnings 🍻

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Heres to new beginnings!! 💖🥳🥳

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same exact situation here. Been on reddit since digg v4 happened. Reddit was far from perfect, but for the most part I enjoyed my time there. If this is the end of reddit, then so be it. Lemmy/Beehaw looks like it can grow into a good replacement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've mourned more for the shells of the eggs that I broke today. That was a tasty omelette.

I'm genuinely happy that Reddit is dying. Yes, it'll lead to some information loss and that's bad, but we've been stuck in that abusive platform for too long. Now at least saner alternatives will get some room to grow.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am absolutely going to miss RIF. That app provided such a clean filtered experience to the content I was interested in on Reddit for years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same RIF was so good, I had to uninstall it a few times because of how much time I spent on it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think what I'm most sad about is losing easily searchable information. Finding an obsscure thread about some weird question I had is great. Maybe that will be preserved somehow. Idk. That and the more unhinged reddit posts and copypastas throughout history.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Shame about those two broken arms.....

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i’m mourning it a bit, but to be honest i think it’s going to be a bit difficult for me to get off for a while until other places (aside from facebook, which i’d much prefer to avoid over the current iteration of reddit) have the same amount of niche communities. for example, i’m in a private pregnancy subreddit with other people with my same due date and it’s reallllly useful in comparing notes and feeling like i’m not going insane at any given symptom and i think it’ll take a while for a place like lemmy to have an audience big enough to build niche communities like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's really cool that you've got a due date subreddit. I was on a pregnancy/parenting forum ages ago and it was really nice to have a group of women to chat with who were going through the same thing. So much of pregnancy just isn't taught in schools and I was the first in my offline friend group to get pregnant, so I had nobody else to turn to with "is this normal" questions. My kid just graduated high school, so this was before Reddit was around.

For a community like that, I'd probably be willing to suffer through Reddit's bad changes for a bit longer.

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